Windows 10 Version 1903

Checking other Forums on this Windows 10 1903 May 2019 Feature Update, I find that

even experienced users have had a LOT of trouble downloading and installing this update.

Complaints of frozen downloads or installs, being stuck at incomplete for days, plus more problems.

My decision to put this update on ice until such a time as it has been officially cleaned of trouble, no

matter how long it takes is the correct path to follow.

Any update which needs in-depth back-up with system images etc, is in my book a big NO-NO.

It is a massive OS update - https://tinyurl.com/y4jua2lj  

Edited by Beaker77, 07 June 2019 - 08:03 AM.

^^^^ Can you please provide some links to the problems that you report because the forums that I frequent do not report any significant problems from any of the users.

^^^^ Can you please provide some links to the problems that you report because the forums that I frequent do not report any significant problems from any of the users.

My main check concern came from  TSF - Windows 10 Support > Win 10 May Update

If you look at it from a sheer mathematical point of view, the problems occuring are very low. There are millions (roughly 700 million) of Windows 10 users, with another million variables and configurations. No update ever will be 100% issue free. If it was widespread we'd all know it. 

edit: I'm not suggesting in any way all 700 million users are on 1903. Still, the math is telling.

Edited by xrobwx, 07 June 2019 - 08:04 AM.

 

^^^^ Can you please provide some links to the problems that you report because the forums that I frequent do not report any significant problems from any of the users.

My main check concern came from  TSF - Windows 10 Support > Win 10 May Update

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4505057/windows-10-update-kb4505057  This?

I have a gut feel that Microsoft's release of 1903 on their standard Windows Update is selective.

Not all users have yet received it.

I will keep my feet firmly on the step until the Bungee Jump Instructor actually pushes me off.

Edited by Beaker77, 07 June 2019 - 08:33 AM.

It will be months, at a minimum, until all Windows 10 users receive any Feature Update.   It's been that way since day one of Feature Updates.   They are not now and never have been pushed out in a short period of time, but over a long period of time, starting with relatively small cohort sizes with those cohort sizes increasing if issues are not encountered or are encountered and resolved.

Needing to take full system image backups and separate user data backups is not connected directly, in any way, to Feature Updates.  It's how one exercises reasonable precaution and preservation of one's own data as a modern computer user.  If one doesn't have a backup protocol, and follow it, you will eventually, as mikey11 noted earlier, be creating a topic entitled:  "My hard drive crashed, how can I get my data back!?"  [And there's a decent chance you can't at all, or will pay through the nose to have professional recovery done.]

This is my final conclusion on the Windows 10 1903 May 2019 Feature Update issue.

There have been many users reporting trouble updating to 1903, varying from minor malfunctions, graphics, audio, third party programs etc, to major ones, where attempted traumatic restore to Windows 1809 has been necessary. Some downloadings and installations have stuck indefinitely, forcing the users to crash their PC's and face the consequences.

There is no rush to have 1903, so why take unnecessary risks. There is no reason at all except curiosity and as we all know "curiosity killed the cat".

Let 1903 remain on the shelf for 3 months, more, or even to the end of 1809 service life on May 12, 2020. Nothing is lost.
While 1809 is working to perfection, stay with it - If it 'aint broke, don't fix it.

It is widely recommended that an image back-up is made of the existing system before installing 1903.
Macrium Reflect is highly praised for this task.

1903 is very buggy right now on my pc.One look at MS Communities reveals that there's far too much wrong.Some are blaming computer manufacturers but this is MSs fault for not testing and relying on insiders and the average user to test their product.

1903 is very buggy right now on my pc.One look at MS Communities reveals that there's far too much wrong.Some are blaming computer manufacturers but this is MSs fault for not testing and relying on insiders and the average user to test their product.

And it's running smooth as silk on the Toshiba laptop (c55t) and HP laptop (15-g035wm) it's installed on.

The key phrase in the above is "on my PC."  I am not denying anyone's problems, they're real, but by all indications they are, as most problems generally are, idiosyncratic to the machine in question.

You cannot use MS Communities, or Bleeping Computer, or any similar site as a representative sample of anything.  People turn to these venues when they're having issues, regardless of the point in time, but at this point in time there's a feature update coming out.  Using help forums as a metric of "how most of the users" are doing is a recipe for forming false conclusions.  My analogy is to pick your own car's brand, and start cruising the forums dedicated to that brand.  From what you read there you'd conclude that there has never been a functioning automobile in existence, because that's where people go when they need to fix something, not to report that everything's just fine.

There are no widespread reports of major issues with the 1903 update in the tech press or the general press, and those are the first two places that major issues, or even persistent issues of a more minor nature, would be being reported.

Who Dares Wins ? - Some do and some don't

After much deliberation, I have decided to tread water on the 1903 Feature Update, for as long as it takes to generate confidence

that the version has been thoroughly debugged by users feedback to Microsoft.

 

They have listed it as a separate option to normal updates as a manual "install when you are ready" job. So it can wait.

There is no rush to install a new Feature Update, we have months before it becomes mandatory.

 

See -

  

That's what I would do also Beaker77.  There is no need to jump in unless it has already been downloaded.  At some point it may just download by itself, then you are stuck with it, but for now there is no need to rush.

I've installed it to many computers as of now, but no Upgrades yet.

Why don't you just have at least ONE GOOD USB Flash Drive to back up all your data?

Apparently My current Haswell Based Tower is not ready for it due to the warning I'm getting, which I find a little weird as it should meet most modern criteria.

Here is a list of the issues that one may or may not experience.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-information/status-windows-10-1903

 

After much deliberation, I have decided to tread water on the 1903 Feature Update, for as long as it takes to generate confidence

that the version has been thoroughly debugged by users feedback to Microsoft.

 

They have listed it as a separate option to normal updates as a manual "install when you are ready" job. So it can wait.

There is no rush to install a new Feature Update, we have months before it becomes mandatory.

 

See -

  

That's what I would do also Beaker77.  There is no need to jump in unless it has already been downloaded.  At some point it may just download by itself, then you are stuck with it, but for now there is no need to rush.

 

I've installed it to many computers as of now, but no Upgrades yet.

 

Why don't you just have at least ONE GOOD USB Flash Drive to back up all your data?

 

Apparently My current Haswell Based Tower is not ready for it due to the warning I'm getting, which I find a little weird as it should meet most modern criteria.

 

Here is a list of the issues that one may or may not experience.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-information/status-windows-10-1903

 

Ah, but those issues relate to NOW. In 3 or more months time, hopefully there will not be many to list.

Microsoft has (thank the heavens above) become far more discerning with regard to intentionally withholding Feature Updates from hardware identified as having issues at a given point during the rollout.  I can't find the reference at the moment, but there is a page somewhere that actually lists the "hardware on hold" noting why it's in a holding state.

If you are getting the "Download and install now" message that means that the hardware checker is not finding any known issues.   This was done to give end users a much greater extent of control over whether the Feature Update would occur "behind the scenes" as part of the Windows Update process, requiring a restart during inactive hours, or with the user knowing full well that they've triggered the process first.  The actual controls you get over Windows Updates as of Version 1903 are much more extensive than they have been, and that's clearly because users have been demanding same for quite a while now.  Better late than never.

Well I know i can say a lot about my absolutely horrid experience with trying to get 1903 to work on my system even though i never had issues with windows feature updates before.

I must have tried like 15 times to make 1903 to work and it took a windows .iso and rufus to do it as for some dumb reason microsoft media creation tool decided to cough up blood on me.

Still I had ton install windows 10 fresh and that is not a pleasant experience, doing a clean install of windows is always a tedious and agonizing experience.

Every time I have to install windows or re install it the more and more I love the linux installers especially the Ubuntu installer, swear to Cthulhu Linux is so much easier to deal with these days unless you go try to install arch or something like that.