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#61 midimusicman79

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Posted 21 July 2020 - 05:00 AM

You are welcome! :)

None of the 7 remaining issues which still are under investigation with Version 2004 apply to my system either, but that certainly does not mean I will upgrade yet.

Because, we need to have patience while Microsoft & Co. resolve all the issues with Version 2004.

And, I am going to wait until then before I will perform disk imaging of my C: drive (SSD) with Acronis True Image 2020.

Then, I will perform an in-place upgrade with a 32 GB USB 3.0 Flash Drive and Rufus, which is a course of action that I have grown accustomed to.

Another backup and disk imaging software which has a free version, is Macrium Reflect which is available from here:

https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

Good luck! :)

Edit add: First line+link.

Edited by midimusicman79, 21 July 2020 - 11:09 AM.

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Posted 21 July 2020 - 02:34 PM

Well, foolhardy or not, I upgraded last night.  It went uneventfully but took a LONG time - partly because of VERY slow Internet (known cause, bad behavior of a local WiFi contractor "jamming" our wireless broadband system, our ISP is having  to install a completely new microwave relay system to service Internet customers in the town).  Started around 8 pm, finished at 2:45 am (ouch!!!).

 

I have a Linksys EA7500 router, supporting a LAN connected to the Internet and a WiFi home network including this desktop computer (Dell XPS 8700, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit version 2004, build 19041.388), a laptop computer (Dell Inspiron 15R 5537, Windows 10 Home 64 bit version 1909, build 18363.836, automatically connected when within range, which is thanks to COVID-19 most of the time), a Canon Pixma TS9120 printer, and (when within range, which is thanks to COVID-19 most of the time) a Samsung Galaxy S9 smartphone.  The WiFi network connects to the Internet via the router and the above mentioned LAN.  The printer is set to switch on automatically whenever a print job is sent to the queue by either computer or by the smartphone, and to switch off automatically after 30 minutes of inactivity (those are feature options provided by the printer's own software).

 

So now I want to put the system through its paces, so to speak, to make sure everything is working as it should.  Suggestions for specific things to test?



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Posted 21 July 2020 - 07:24 PM

@ midimusicman79 -- If I understand correctly, I am therefore not "jumping the gun" but only following the recommended approach, i.e. to install the update only when offered specifically to my system . . .


Well, foolhardy or not, I upgraded last night.


Well, it is albeit your system and you are as such free to do exactly as you want.

No offense, but you are actually ignoring Microsoft's recommendation to not upgrade Windows 10 to Version 2004 until all the issues with it are resolved.

You are consequently running the risk of experiencing whatever still undiscovered issues that the upgrade might contain. :whistle:

Good luck! :)

Edit add: Wishes.

Edited by midimusicman79, 22 July 2020 - 11:19 AM.

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Posted 22 July 2020 - 06:14 PM

Thanks for the good wishes - they seem to have worked.  For the rest I can only say "you are absolutely right!".  I seem to have had some kind of mental collapse, with the total departure of common sense.  I'd better not list the other commonsensical things I did NOT do before leaping into the unknown.  I can't believe it myself.  When I do something stupid I'm inclined to laugh at myself for being so dim -- but this time I thought I was going to have to ask for help, meaning that other people besides myself would be wasting their time trying to fix a completely unnecessary problem created only by my own heedlessness.  Very embarrassing.

 

The unknown turned out to be a very convincing demonstration of the "MBAM slowdown effect".  45 minutes to open a Google Chrome page.  Through absolutely no merit of my own, there turned out to be an immediate fix (turning off MBAM's ransomware protection function) and today when I finally got back online there was an MBAM upgrade (in beta) that allowed one to turn ransomware protection back on.  I installed the beta, and it works.  So for the moment all is well, but it was a very salutary lesson, and perhaps also a reminder that at nearly 90 years of age I might need to double-check my thinking a little more carefully.

 

And during the next couple of days I may be rather busy taking, er, insurance precautions, beginning but not ending with Macrium Reflect images.  I had gotten careless -- and for that, a good scare is a valuable corrective.  I'd rather not repeat it, though.



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Posted 22 July 2020 - 09:00 PM

You are welcome! :)
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Posted 11 August 2020 - 08:45 PM

I installed the 2004 update and it broke drive mapping that I had setup, all to other Windows 10 machines. 

 

I could not even see several other computers on my network, and for the ones I could see I could not map shares with explorer or the net use commands.

 

I just wasn't in the mood to mess with it at the time, and reset Windows back to 1909.  Once I did, all mappings and computers were again visible.  Since I have just suspended updates, and occasionally turning that off to d/l and install other updates related to 1909.

 

Anyone else experienced this?


Edited by Old_Geek, 11 August 2020 - 09:04 PM.


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Posted 11 August 2020 - 08:50 PM

The thing I dont like right now about Windows 10 2004 is that I never know what to expect. My gut reaction is that when you updated to 2004, a specific version of SMB was disabled, and it broke your mappings.

But I had an experience in the last 2 weeks. I installed Windows 10 2004 onto a brand new drive, and afterwards SMB 1 was disabled. But then I received an imaged drive with the exact version of 2004 with the same Windows Update and SMB 1 was not disabled. On the same exact computer.

So my new answer when anyone asks me what will happen when they update is its complicated.

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Posted 11 August 2020 - 08:58 PM

Makes sense, kinda.  I failed to mention that I could access the drive on the 2004 machine from the other 1909 machines, so SMB wasn't that broken.



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Posted 22 September 2020 - 04:38 AM

After keeping 2004 on the shelf for 2-3 months, is it now debugged and worth installing ?


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Posted 22 September 2020 - 05:48 AM

According to the Windows 10 Version 2004 Release Health Dashboard, Microsoft & Co. have already resolved 13 out of 15 issues.

This means that they still have 2 issues left to resolve before upgrading to Version 2004 is recommendable and relatively safe, IF you have any of the hardware being affected by the currently applied safeguard holds.

If NOT, then you might upgrade to Version 2004 as I did on September, 03, with no issues, and BTW, Version 2009 will be launched in October and onwards.

Good luck! :)
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Posted 22 September 2020 - 06:41 AM

According to the Windows 10 Version 2004 Release Health Dashboard, Microsoft & Co. have already resolved 13 out of 15 issues.

This means that they still have 2 issues left to resolve before upgrading to Version 2004 is recommendable and relatively safe, IF you have any of the hardware being affected by the currently applied safeguard holds.

If NOT, then you might upgrade to Version 2004 as I did on September, 03, with no issues, and BTW, Version 2009 will be launched in October and onwards.

Good luck! :)

 

Brilliant - The two items under investigation concern  -  Conexant ISST audio drivers - My drivers are Realtek and Intel

Microsoft do add the following note -

To safeguard your update experience, we have applied a compatibility hold on Windows 10 devices with affected Conexant or Synaptics audio drivers installed from being offered Windows 10, version 2004 or Windows Server, version 2004 until the driver has been updated.


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Posted 22 September 2020 - 07:22 AM

Just remember that version 2010 comes out in just a couple of weeks, so you might want to skip 2004 altogether. A lot of people have already installed 2010 and it seems stable and fully functional.


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Posted 22 September 2020 - 08:27 AM

Just remember that version 2010 comes out in just a couple of weeks, so you might want to skip 2004 altogether. A lot of people have already installed 2010 and it seems stable and fully functional.

 

Thanks Rocky - if MS don't automatically install my 2004 your suggestion looks very attractive 

My understanding is that the October version is 2009.


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Posted 22 September 2020 - 08:43 AM

 

Just remember that version 2010 comes out in just a couple of weeks, so you might want to skip 2004 altogether. A lot of people have already installed 2010 and it seems stable and fully functional.

 

Thanks rocky - if MS don't automatically install my 2004 your suggestion looks very attractive 

 

 

 

Yes, do not rush into anything, just be patient.


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Posted 22 September 2020 - 09:16 AM

Please note: From another, similar topic: Is Version 2004 still worth waiting for, or should one wait for Version 2009? Here is a comment by BC Advisor jenae:

 

Hi, part of the MS release:-

 

But 20H2 will be delivered as a small update only for Windows 10 May 2020 Update users. If you are using an older version of Windows 10 i.e. older feature update, you'll be unable to upgrade to 20H2 via Windows Update. You'll need to perform a full installation of 20H2 by downloading and upgrading to 20H2 using official Microsoft tools or offline ISO files.

 

Good luck! :)


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