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#1 dbonniwell

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 03:33 PM

I installed some new hardware and defragged before this happened

I got a message that my system32/hal.dll is missing but before that I heard some hmmm noises from the inside of my computer and shut down, Hard Drive I beleive.
Now I cannot even boot up in Safe mode or get to the point to try a system recover/repair with the OS CD but because now my computer doesn't detect a HDD. how can that be? I was gamming an hour before this happened

Cannot do anything without getting the message system32/hal.dll is missing or corrupt.
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Sata hard drives 2x80gig New since April 07
I have a feeling I am in trouble, is there any one out there that can save me or is time to buy more hard drives? Any Ideas how I can rule HDD in or out?

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 03:37 PM

To do a system repair you need a floppy disk with the correct sata drivers on it. The hard drives are probably not bad, sata is not part of the original xp disk, since it cant find drivers to load, it wont detect the hard drives.
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Posted 10 July 2007 - 04:07 PM

I contacted Hitachi about that and they said they should be on the motherboard software I got. At this point how can I rule the HDD in or out?
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Posted 10 July 2007 - 07:05 PM

I agree with oldf@rt. Try a system repair and get the sata drivers. Without the drivers, you will never see the hard drives. With our systems at work having sata drives as a standard now, I made a slipstreamed Win XP disk with sata drivers integrated into it. (You can also integrate SP2 and other drivers / updates.) I used nLite to do mine.

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 09:45 PM

Not sure where to get drivers as Hitachi will not respond to my request.
will just the hal.dll file make it go?

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 10:57 PM

Can you look up the downloads for your exact model at hitachi's web site? they should have the sata drivers for that computer listed there, if not give us the full specifications and we will see what we can find.
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Posted 11 July 2007 - 03:21 AM

this is all I can find on my Hitachi drives

Hitachi HDS72168
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this is for both HDDs
thanks for your help

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 06:39 AM

Hitachi has an excellent hard drive diagnostic tool called the Drive Fitness Test that's free for downloading from their site: http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#DFT

Hitachi can't help with the SATA drivers because they're a part of your motherboard - so I'd suggest locating the make, model, and revision number of your motherboard and trying their website.
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Posted 11 July 2007 - 07:36 AM

If all else fails, you can remove the root drive (normally C:) from your machine, configure it as a slave (not too sure if this is necessary with a SATA drive) and put it in a good machine where you can copy the good hal.dll to the faulty drive.

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 01:51 PM

i have the intel cd that came with the motherboard, or do they have to be on a floppy disk to access?

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 11:46 PM

I found the Raid drivers (On Floppy) and and along with the Xp install disk used F6 to try and get into repair/recovery and my system again told me it cannot detect any of my Hitachi HDDs. But I was able to advance further with the Raid drivers but got the same message. I pressed Rthe was asked where I want ot repair and then the message came up telling me The drives are not being detected.
I pulled the box off its shelf and took the cover off.
The connections are fine, both power and sata cables
I checked the voltage 5v and 12v as it should be.
I plugged them back in without a monitor attached and the powered up and it seemed the disk were turning. I carefully put a screwdriver to the metal plate on top of the drives and the other to my ear and listened for strange noises. on one drive there was a slight something at startup then it stopped.The other drive seemed smoother at startup. I could also feel some vibration with my fingers but perhaps that is normal. The Seagate IDE I have hooked via the PCI card was the smoothest.
Mother board is a Intel D975XBX2 (New) so are the Hitachi HDDs. If I go to Bios and look in Advance then Drive configuration and I was able to see the Hitachi drives
I am Raid 0
is there any thing else i can do?

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 12:21 AM

Ouch. You will need to download the diagnostics for Hitachi Hard Drives, here.
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Posted 13 July 2007 - 01:27 AM

That tool would be great, but under the present situation, I do not think I can boot up far enough to utilize that and figure things out.

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 02:32 AM

Try the Ultimate Boot CD.

The ibm/hitachi diagnostics program is on the disk. You can also put it on a usb flash drive if your computer supports usb boot.
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