Posted 06 July 2007 - 12:16 AM
Thanks for both the links, solaris32. (A 'heads-up' to anyone about to read the second link - lots of swearing). And I'm just so grateful that no one here stated that God intended women to be subservient to men as tears dripping on my keyboard would have done my poor computer no good at all! Gentle grin!
Do agree with Scarlett's words about how certain groups within the feminist movement - wow, some seem to be veering into 'la la' land at a rapid pace. Eep! In fact, the 'men haters' out there than have the nerve to call themself 'feminists' - grrrr - to put men down is no different than men putting women down.
But the extremists aside, I'm fascinated that much of the understanding of the basic feminist movement is 'to strive for equality'. I do agree it's a bad choice of word in many ways for indeed, that word in itself perhaps shouldn't apply unless we've got two near identical apples sitting on the table. As you said, blueandgold04, "Life is never equal to anyone, regardless of your gender". . Suspect they may have chosen it simply because it's the closest one we have in our vocabulary to ask for being treated as "the other half to Humanity". (Well put!).
While feminists fought for women to be able to work and for 'same pay for same job' regardless if being done by a man or a women, it is odd how our society seems to have veered off into the belief that a family needs 2 cars, massive flat-screen tvs and the biggest house possible - ergo, so many women now 'have' to work when having babies. Could be wrong here but I sort of think feminists gave us the 'key' but we, in turn, choose to walk through the door and not return to do the incredibly hard but necessary job of raising children. (On a personal level, whether it be daddy or mommy as a stay-at-home parent, bet there are millions of kids longing for it).
But I darn near snorted my coffee through my nose when I read these words at the second link, though: "Yes I hate feminists, i despise them, i want them out of our society".
These words are made by a women. A women who, without feminism, would not have the right to inherit her husband's property upon his death, would not have survivor benefits if he should die and live her and her children unprovided for, she couldn't vote, she couldn't take a loan out without her husband's written consent, violence in the home would still be 'okay' in the eyes of the law, women and children's shelters wouldn't exist - and so much more.
And the work of so many women now dead still goes on - the fight to stop having innocent children mutilated, women killed at the pleasure of their husbands with no law saying this is wrong. They have far more courage than I - for the most part, I've simply sat back and reaped the reward for their work.
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I do sympathize for having to work with women who goof off at work. I worked with both women and men who goofed off at work. (Don't think it often occurs to them that what they don't do, someone else will have do - all for the same pay! Ugh!).
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