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Bush Commutes Libby's Sentence


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#1 dc3

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Posted 02 July 2007 - 09:43 PM

I wish I could say that this surprises me. What a horses patoot.

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Posted 02 July 2007 - 11:17 PM

He's a lame duck and he knows it.

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Posted 03 July 2007 - 08:50 AM

He's a lame duck and he knows it.

So is our current congress...

He was well within his presidential powers to do so.

Clinton pardoned terrorists. Do you have the same hostility towards him?

Oh, and of course, lets not even mention that the original "leaker" of Plame's identity (Armitage) gets nothing. But you all don't seem to care about that too much? Why is that?

Edited by jwinathome, 03 July 2007 - 09:03 AM.


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Posted 03 July 2007 - 10:05 AM

Let's also remember that under the applicable law, Plame did not fit the definition of 'covert' in the first place. So Libby was convicted of misleading the FBI/Congress in regard to a crime that wasn't a crime.
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Posted 03 July 2007 - 10:09 AM

Let's also remember that under the applicable law, Plame did not fit the definition of 'covert' in the first place. So Libby was convicted of misleading the FBI/Congress in regard to a crime that wasn't a crime.

Exactly...so it was never even an issue....


It shows that there was clearly an agenda to tie something to the Bush admin. They were not interested in the issue of plame's identity at all. Its sad that some can't see that.

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Posted 04 July 2007 - 05:03 PM

Whether if the first issue was illegal or a crime or not. lying under oath is still a crime.

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Posted 04 July 2007 - 06:51 PM

True.

But commutting a sentence is also a legal action by a President.


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Posted 06 July 2007 - 01:12 AM

The Bush Libby Connection? Easy. Birds of a feather flock together.

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Posted 06 July 2007 - 06:10 AM

The Bush Libby Connection? Easy. Birds of a feather flock together.

Cheers.

Huh?

Thanks for the profound thought.


Funny how nobody was charged with the crime of outing her. Funny how the writer of the law specifying what is "covert" said that by the law she was not covert. Funny how the prosecutor withheld information that Armitage admitted to the alleged "crime." Funny how there were others that outed her. Its quite apparent what the real agenda was here.

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Posted 06 July 2007 - 08:56 AM

I would hope that those that didn't see the hypocrisy of political partisanship have their eyes opened here.


The Clinton's blast Bush for what he is doing, even though Clinton did essentially the same things while in office.

The Republican's blasted Clinton when he pardoned folks, but now support Bush when he acts similarly.


All too many of us do not realize that we are being caught up in this manipulation.


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Posted 06 July 2007 - 08:57 AM

The Bush Libby Connection? Easy. Birds of a feather flock together.

Cheers.


I agree - they are right in there with those flocking Clintons!


(See my previous post.)


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Posted 06 July 2007 - 09:00 AM

The Bush Libby Connection? Easy. Birds of a feather flock together.

Cheers.


I agree - they are right in there with those flocking Clintons!


(See my previous post.)

Its so funny to me how people get so angry with someone like Libby having his sentence commuted....but they don't care that Clinton gave full pardons to 16 KNOWN terrorists....in addition to like 300 other people.

Edited by jwinathome, 06 July 2007 - 09:00 AM.


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Posted 08 July 2007 - 10:35 PM

Whether if the first issue was illegal or a crime or not. lying under oath is still a crime.


Yes, but thanks to Bill Clinton and the Democrats in Congress. it's not a very bad crime. Shoot, Bill only got a stern talking to, from Hillary. :thumbsup:
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Posted 09 July 2007 - 08:08 AM

As long as one of the abilities of the President is to give pardons and commutations there will be controversy.


You can tell a lot about a person when they join this controversy, in my opinion.

Hillary Clinton calls the Bush pardon of Libby "cronyism". That is extremely hypocritical when you look at all the pardons Bill Clinton gave to people who were supporting him, giving contributions to his campaigns, etc. whch fall under the "cronyism" umbrella as well, I'd say. Hillary would better serve herself by being silent, in my opinion, although that wouldn't please her primary supporters.

I don't agree with either Bush's or Clinton's handling of these pardons and commutations, however, it is a Presidential power.


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