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Review: Microsoft Anti-Spyware Ineffective


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#1 KoanYorel

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Posted 21 January 2005 - 10:08 AM

Review: Microsoft Anti-Spyware Ineffective.Jan 21, 8:06 AM (ET) By MATTHEW FORDAHL, AP News "The company now has two free programs to help rid PCs of unwanted pests. Though Microsoft Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool and Microsoft AntiSpyware show some promise, they aren't close to being magic bullets... I tested the programs on a Windows XP computer I borrowed from my wife's cousin. The 3-year-old PC, a Gateway running Windows XP Home Edition, was basically unusable... Once installed, the tool scanned the machine and reported no problems, even though there were big problems."
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Posted 21 January 2005 - 10:42 AM

Two comments.
1. Hardly scientific
2. It's a BETA

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Posted 21 January 2005 - 11:05 AM

I note that the author also questions how effective this application will be if you have to wait for monthly updates. Maybe that will change when MS starts charging users for an application that cleans up MS's own mistakes.
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Edited by jgweed, 21 January 2005 - 11:15 AM.

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Posted 21 January 2005 - 10:33 PM

I tell you what, i spent $$$$$$ on StompSoft and XOFT, and MS's free version was more informitive than the two paid versions I "wasted" money on.. The warnings about the host file being hijacked was INVALUABLE!!.. You don't see that from Stompsoft's Spyware X-terminator
Ya know, this stuff is fascinating, yet irritating

#5 KoanYorel

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Posted 21 January 2005 - 10:40 PM

Read my signature.

I don't endorse the opinions, I just pass them on.....

You all believe what you choose to do.....
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Posted 21 January 2005 - 11:04 PM

Don't take it personally Koan, this isn't about you, its about MS. :thumbsup:

I ran the MS Spyware program on an XP machine a couple of days ago and it found eXact.Downloader Trojan Downloader in c:\widows\system32\vx3.nls and thats all it found. All well and good. It removed it too.

Then I ran Webroots Spy Sweeper. It found Ist Bar, WhenUSave, Bargains.exe and 5 more I can't remember (but I can find out) that were all sucked in by the Trojan. I ran AdAware next without removing anything and it came up clean too, which I really don't understand unless Spy Sweeper was somehow blocking them. This is a machine that I know was clean previously and had the MS one supposedly protecting it real-time. Needless to say I disabled the MS one from running at startup and let Spy Sweeper take over.

I've run a lot of spyware programs and this one is the best I've seen hands down over anything else. On the download page on that link you can get a thirty day full version trial, and its well worth buying.

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Posted 22 January 2005 - 12:26 AM

Just a general comment about spyware applications.
There is no established criteria for determining precisely what is, and what is not, spyware;as a direct consequence of these differing interpretations, some applications will find instances where others will not, simply because the others do not considered them "spyware."
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Posted 22 January 2005 - 12:27 AM

Were those cookies that Spysweeper found? Just curious is all, because that feature (scanning cookies) is disabled in the Beta version. :thumbsup:

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Posted 22 January 2005 - 12:37 AM

No, none were cookies. This user does little or no surfing. Just P2P and IM.

some applications will find instances where others will not, simply because the others do not considered them "spyware."


I agree but all these were spyware and nasty ones too. Ist Bar is very hard to get rid of and Bargains.exe and WhenUSave are persistent too. I'll find out what the other 5 were and post back with them tomorrow.

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Posted 22 January 2005 - 12:59 AM

This user does little or no surfing. Just P2P and IM.


:inlove: :thumbsup: :trumpet: :flowers: "Just P2P ...." (???)


Don't take it personally Koan, this isn't about you, its about MS.

I don't take offense, just need to remind some. at times...who apparently can't read...

And I thank you kindly for your observation of such....
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Posted 22 January 2005 - 01:18 AM

Yeah, P2P, specifically Shareaza and WinMX. I love it. He's a good customer with all the trojans and viruses he drags in. :thumbsup:

He also loves his webcam and the IM programs like ICQ and MSN. He doesn't have much of an education and is dyslexic to boot, so surfing doesn't interest him as reading is an issue.

Beyond that, he built his own current PC with surprisingly little help from me. He spotted a case with purple lights in it and talked about it for months. Finally bought it. I asked him what he was going to put in it and next thing you know he's got an Asus MoBo and a 2.8 Gig P4. He had a 40GB hard drive kicking around and bought a new 120 and 768 MB Ram. Had a problem loading ME, got mad and went out and got XP Home. All I helped him with was partitioning the drives and loading XP, but he built it mostly on his own.

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Posted 22 January 2005 - 02:43 AM

It just seems to be of questionable value as an informative and accurate assessment of a program that does performs well for many others. A headline that essentially is misleading, IMHO.

Edited by phawgg, 22 January 2005 - 02:44 AM.

patiently patrolling, plenty of persisant pests n' problems ...

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Posted 22 January 2005 - 03:09 AM

Ignorance is bliss... enjoy it while it lasts....

Read my sig.... again....

Edited by KoanYorel, 22 January 2005 - 03:11 AM.

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Posted 22 January 2005 - 04:01 AM

Koan accurately characterises in the title, it seems to me, what the author of the article says, and his use of quotation marks clearly indicates that the opinon is the original writer's.
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Edited by jgweed, 22 January 2005 - 04:05 AM.

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Posted 22 January 2005 - 08:14 AM

This news item
127.0.0.1 apnews.myway.com
is in my hphosts file.
Why would it be?

Edited by Haroldo, 22 January 2005 - 08:16 AM.





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