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#1 dc3

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 10:47 PM

This is what we pay taxes for?

Rep. Miller denounces funding of struggling aircraft

U.S. Rep. Brad Miller of Raleigh is calling for an end to years of federal funding to an aerospace company that is trying to develop a military aircraft that takes off and lands vertically.

Miller, a Democrat, is scheduled to appear tonight on ABC's World News Tonight, which plans to air a report on the DP-2 Aircraft. DuPont Aerospace Co., based in San Diego, is developing the aircraft.

Congressional earmarks have provided $63 million over 20 years for the DP-2, which is the brainchild of aerospace engineer Tony duPont. According to a news release issued today by Miller's office, the aircraft has never flown successfully.

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This "aircraft" has not left the ground much less the flat bed truck that it spends most of its time on in the twenty years that the Republicans have given this turkey millions with no apparent expectations for a timely or functional result.

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 12:43 AM

A little more information on the DP-2:
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Posted 12 June 2007 - 02:11 AM

Unbelievable,, 63 million over twenty years and it hasn't left the ground :thumbsup: , he must have some friends in high places.

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 10:46 AM

Makes one feel confident about giving away their hard-earned money to some faceless institution! :thumbsup:
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Posted 12 June 2007 - 10:52 AM

The money spent on that PALES in comparison to the money spent on the war on poverty (using our tax money) which has had less success than this aircraft. Where's the outrage over that?

Vertical taking off and landing is a technology shown to be important to the future of technology.

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 12:09 PM

Or the war on drugs for that matter.

My outrage is not directed at the misuse of funds necessarily, but rather the fact that the government thinks they have any 'right' to my money at all. Read the 16th Amendment, it grants no such taxation rights. The Federal Income Tax is illegal, unconstitutional, and enforced by tyranny!
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Posted 12 June 2007 - 12:15 PM

Or the war on drugs for that matter.

My outrage is not directed at the misuse of funds necessarily, but rather the fact that the government thinks they have any 'right' to my money at all. Read the 16th Amendment, it grants no such taxation rights. The Federal Income Tax is illegal, unconstitutional, and enforced by tyranny!



You rock!!! I'm with you....

ABOLISH THE INCOME TAX, and ABOLISH SOCIAL SECURITY!! (Seriously!)

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 01:41 PM

Amen!!

Have you seen the movie, "America: Freedom to Fascism"?

It is an excellent display of how insane the income tax has become. The 1040 violates our 5th Amendment rights, but nobody brings that up.

I would like to know what 'security' I have to look forward to from Social Security?
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Posted 12 June 2007 - 01:42 PM

Man...social security is the biggest ponzi scheme ever created.

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 02:57 PM

1040 violates our 5th Amendment rights


Umm, how is that exactly?

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 03:01 PM

1040 violates our 5th Amendment rights


Umm, how is that exactly?



By this...

5th amendment...nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 04:59 PM

63 million over 20 years? Ha, how about 133 million per plane.

And why did we need another air-superiority fighter? To combat Al Qaeda's air-superiority fighters?? :thumbsup:
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Posted 12 June 2007 - 05:04 PM

Ok, so Social Services, Highways, Clean Water, or Law Enforcement are not equitable compensation? How do you define 'just compensation'? Besides, you can't just pull out one little piece and expect to make your case. Taken in it's entirety, the 5th amendment was written and is still interpreted as a means to prevent government from treating it's citizens in an unjust manner, ie throwing someone in jail without a trial, or forcing them to confess to something they may or may not have done through coercion or torture. That part you clipped out, when taken in context with the rest of the amendment, means that government does not have the right to take my private property as a means of coercion.

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 05:48 PM

And why did we need another air-superiority fighter?


We don't - nor do we need a modern Navy or high-tech battlefield equipment or "spy" satellites, etc. especially if we don't want to maintain our way of life - I see no reason to continue with any of that stuff.

As long as there are people in the world who strive to dominate others, we'll always have the choice to succumb.

To combat Al Qaeda's air-superiority fighters??


I'm thinking more along the lines of keeping Al Qaeda from obtaining them. That thought is no laughing matter, in my opinion.


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Posted 12 June 2007 - 06:46 PM

Ok, so Social Services, Highways, Clean Water, or Law Enforcement are not equitable compensation? How do you define 'just compensation'? Besides, you can't just pull out one little piece and expect to make your case. Taken in it's entirety, the 5th amendment was written and is still interpreted as a means to prevent government from treating it's citizens in an unjust manner, ie throwing someone in jail without a trial, or forcing them to confess to something they may or may not have done through coercion or torture. That part you clipped out, when taken in context with the rest of the amendment, means that government does not have the right to take my private property as a means of coercion.



Well, I didn't say I believe it, but I found what he was talking about.
However, you find where the federal income tax and social security are constitutional, then we can talk. :flowers:

Edited for poor grammar. :thumbsup:

Edited by jwinathome, 12 June 2007 - 06:47 PM.





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