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#1 moomoo

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Posted 09 May 2007 - 08:06 PM

Its a dumb question but whatll happen if when installing Xandros i decide to NOT install the LILO boot manager? will it just be a linux partition that is jsut well...there? If i dont install the boot manager and Xandros is installed on a non boot partition will it just load XP as usual?

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Posted 09 May 2007 - 09:47 PM

It will boot to Windows as usual, and you will have a chunk of your disk formatted for Linux that Windows won't be able to use (and neither will you). Seems sort of silly, unless you have disk space to waste. :thumbsup:

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Posted 09 May 2007 - 10:12 PM

you could install lilo to your root partition and use a bootdisk.or just dual boot.

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 03:27 AM

will it just be a linux partition that is jsut well...there?

Yep.

You could always add Lilo latter.

Edited by Monster_user, 10 May 2007 - 03:27 AM.

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#5 moomoo

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 05:13 AM

Im good with the chunk of space..its just im not to keen on Xandros's LILO since ive heard there are major boot errors. i wanted to use GRUB or GAG or BootPart(nifty tool =P) but most likely boot part as it seemed the easiest...it just edited my boot.ini...if THAT messes up i can fix it manually. What do you guys think my best bet is? LILO(self installed by Xandros)? BootPart? Or Grub Or GAG?

Oh and the thing im trying to do IS dual boot but i just dont want to destroy the entire system..it is my computer but my dad gets mad when i mess it up so i need to take precautions...if this was MY PC id be launchin in distros left and right =P

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 05:56 AM

I don't know anything about BootPart, or GAG, so I can't recommend them either way. Xandros is not very Grub friendly, so getting it to work can be difficult.

The Lilo option is the easiest, and most of the time, it just works.

BootPart sounds promising, if you can get it to work with Xandros.
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Posted 10 May 2007 - 06:28 AM

If your actual worry is your dad catching you then I would suggest you not install it at all, as it sounds like this may be a family computer controlled by your parents. However, if you do have permission, but your father doesn't want to see a change, then I would set it up for a boot disk. If you can convince him it shouldn't make any difference other than having to select windows when it boots (which can be made the default in the bootloader so you would actually have to choose linux) then you may try that route.

It has been my experience (well over 20 years ago now) that when dealing with the parents, your safest bet is honesty.
If someone tells you to su rm -rf /
DON'T DO IT!!!!
Be in the know, Bash smart!

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 07:27 AM

I got it working perfectly with BootPart =)

Thanks for all the help!!!

i installed it on my linux partition and then i went back into xp setup bootpart. all it is is a commandline executable that adds a partition to the NTLDR. So im booting a linux with NTLDR and all that changed..well added was a single line in boot.ini =) works PERFECTLY! i LOVE it!

The only problem is my D-Link Adapter wont work? Anyone know whats up with that?

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 12:20 PM

You will need to post the model of the D-Link adapter. Assuming it is a wireless adapter, you may need to configure a program called "Ndiswrapper".

Launch -> Applications -> Internet -> Wireless Utility

Or

Launch -> Run -> and then type,...

kdesu ndisdrivermanager


You then have to find the "INF" file for your D-Link adapter, and add it to Ndiswrapper. Finally you have to set the Wireless settings in the Control Center.
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#10 moomoo

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 03:03 PM

Its DWL-G132

The adapter doesent even turn ON when i start up Xandros the lights dont turn on. I reinstalled the adapter...still no change.

Do i have to download this "NDISWRAPPER"?

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 03:34 PM

No. It is included with Xandros, and many other distributions.

Xandros 3.02 and earlier have an older version of NDiswrapper, that does not support the DWL-G132. There is an update for Xandros 3, later versions should support the DWL-G132.

There appears to be two versions. According to the Ndiswrapper compatibility list.
http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/...mid,33/id,list/


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Card: D-Link DWL-G132 Airplus XtremeG rev. A2 (USB)

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Chipset: Atheros
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usbid: 2001:3a03
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Driver: neta5agu.inf 1.01.41 from D-Link’s site.
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Other: Working w/ ndiswrapper-1.6rc1. Full step-by-step posted in forum http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thr...forum_id=323167.
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Other: Install both neta5agu and athfmwdl drivers.


Download the drivers from the following link.

http://support.dlink.com/products/view.asp...ductid=DWL-G132.

Most of the following can be done from the Wireless configuration panel in the Control Center, except for the 'ndiswrapper -a' command.
Copy the 'INF' file to your home folder, and open a console (konsole). Then type the following;

su
<type in your Administrator password>

ndiswrapper -i neta5agu.inf
(install driver)

ndiswrapper -a 2001:3a03
(set device ID.)

ndiswrapper -l (lowercase L)
It should say, driver present, hardware present

modprobe ndiswrapper
(Load driver)

iwconfig wlan0 essid <Your essid> key <Your WEP/WPA Key>
(set wireless settings.)

ifdown wlan0
(disconnect network)

ifup wlan0
(connect network)

Edited by Monster_user, 10 May 2007 - 03:36 PM.

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#12 moomoo

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 04:25 PM

I have both adapters XD

iahve a DWL 122 and 132...

i changed 132 to 122 because i saw 122 is supported...i can change it back using your instructions with 132 but i think i should give 122 a shot

Thanks ill post back results!

#13 moomoo

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 07:59 PM

Its working perfect..i was using the wrong drivers at first XDXDXD

I would like to say thank you to all who helped me install my very first linux distribution...you have decreased my fear in computers and i thank you with all my heart =)

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 08:53 PM

Oh, its just beginning. If your using Xandros 4, have you seen the special effects?

Hardware rendered shadows, and transparencies. Very nice :thumbsup:
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#15 moomoo

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 09:25 PM

Shes a beuty :thumbsup:

question of a download:

where can i download TK GUI Toolkit...i need it for a program

Edited by moomoo, 10 May 2007 - 09:27 PM.





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