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#1 Commander Gman

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 08:09 AM

Hello everyone :flowers:
I need to upgrade my pc (but not right now probably a month or so.....)
I already have sufficient RAM so i don't need to buy more (1GB)
unless if i become more demanding though :thumbsup:
currently these are the only things i want to upgrade
Graphics card (Which i need to know)
Some more Ghz don't know what part of the comp (Is this the processor?)
I read some info about my specs and i currently have this
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Intel Pentium 4 CPU 1.7 Ghz
any ideas which part should i get?
I also heard of AMD almost anywhere......
But is it better that Intel?

Edited by Commander Gman, 30 April 2007 - 08:10 AM.

Motherboard: MSI P35 Neo-F (Socket 775 LGA) Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40 Ghz Kentsfield Chipset: Intel P35 Graphics Card: Nvidia Geforce GT 440 Memory: 2x 2GB DDR2 800 RAM Storage: 1x IDE 80GB, 1x SATA II 500 GB, 1x External 500GB HD Power Supply: 600W Power supply Monitor: Dual screen set-up Casing: Mini-ATX Fan(s): 1x 80mm silent fan OS: Windows XP SP3


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Posted 30 April 2007 - 08:26 AM

I read some info about my specs and i currently have this
(shown by CCleaner)
Intel Pentium 4 CPU 1.7 Ghz
any ideas which part should i get?

More details on you current system would be a start. Download SIW and copy into a reply the information from the motherboard section.

I also heard of AMD almost anywhere......
But is it better that Intel?

I guess you could say that Intel is better, but what you really want to look at is which has a better price/performance ratio at a certain price point. They are both slashing prices practically every month. Intel just did 40% price-cuts to respond to AMD's 50% price-cuts earlier this month.

Some more Ghz don't know what part of the comp (Is this the processor?)

Usually when talking about GHz your talking about the processor.

The last questions are of course what you use the computer for, and what kind of budget your looking at.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 08:38 AM

The last time i looked in SIW,i coudnt find the info about my graphics card so where is it in the section?

I guess you could say that Intel is better


well probably yes so far i haven't even had AMD yet :thumbsup:

well in this case of upgrading,does one have to reformat?
I couldn't remember but somehow in one case, one had to reformat because of this particular upgrade
or another sort of upgrade excluding the hard disk
Its not the hard disk but rather something else

Edited by Commander Gman, 30 April 2007 - 08:51 AM.

Motherboard: MSI P35 Neo-F (Socket 775 LGA) Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40 Ghz Kentsfield Chipset: Intel P35 Graphics Card: Nvidia Geforce GT 440 Memory: 2x 2GB DDR2 800 RAM Storage: 1x IDE 80GB, 1x SATA II 500 GB, 1x External 500GB HD Power Supply: 600W Power supply Monitor: Dual screen set-up Casing: Mini-ATX Fan(s): 1x 80mm silent fan OS: Windows XP SP3


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Posted 30 April 2007 - 08:50 AM

Property Value
Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Model P4V800D-X
Version Rev X.XX
Serial Number MB-1234567890

Chipset Vendor VIA Technologies Inc
Chipset Model Standard Host Bridge
South Bridge VT8237 PCI to ISA Bridge
SMBus VIA Technologies Inc VT8237 PCI to ISA Bridge @0400h

CPU Intel Pentium 4
Cpu Socket Socket 478 [CPU 1]
Processor Upgrade
Max CPU Speed 1700 MHz

System Slots 4 PCI, 1 AGP

OnBoard devices
Video (Enabled) To Be Filled By O.E.M.

Memory Summary
Location System board or motherboard
Maximum Capacity 4096 MBytes
Memory Slots 4
Error Correction None
Use System memory
Maximum Memory Module Size 1024 MBytes

Warning! Accuracy of DMI data cannot be guaranteed

Motherboard: MSI P35 Neo-F (Socket 775 LGA) Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40 Ghz Kentsfield Chipset: Intel P35 Graphics Card: Nvidia Geforce GT 440 Memory: 2x 2GB DDR2 800 RAM Storage: 1x IDE 80GB, 1x SATA II 500 GB, 1x External 500GB HD Power Supply: 600W Power supply Monitor: Dual screen set-up Casing: Mini-ATX Fan(s): 1x 80mm silent fan OS: Windows XP SP3


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Posted 30 April 2007 - 09:22 AM

The last time i looked in SIW,i coudnt find the info about my graphics card so where is it in the section?

You can find it under the Video Section.

well probably yes so far i haven't even had AMD yet :thumbsup:

Well, I am using an AMD processor. :flowers:

well in this case of upgrading,does one have to reformat?
I couldn't remember but somehow in one case, one had to reformat because of this particular upgrade
or another sort of upgrade excluding the hard disk
Its not the hard disk but rather something else

I you upgrade to a different motherboard with a different chipset you have to re-install windows.

For graphics card upgrade, look at this: The best gaming video cards for the money/AGP interface
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 04:06 AM

DriverVersion 6.14.10.8195
InfFilename oem4.inf
InfSection nv4_NV3x
InstalledDisplayDrivers nv4_disp.dll
MaxRefreshRate 240
MinRefreshRate 6
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Name NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 Ultra
NumberOfColorPlanes 1
PNPDeviceID PCI\VEN_10DEDEV_0311SUBSYS_00000000REV_A1\4354AEA3100008
Status OK
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VideoMemoryType 2
VideoModeDescription 1024 x 768 x 4294967296 colors
VideoProcessor GeForce FX 5600 Ultra
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DeviceName NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 Ultra
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DisplayFrequency 60
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RefreshRate 60
VerticalResolution 768
VideoMode 1024 by 768 pixels, True Color, 60 Hertz

Video Bios Version Version 4.31.20.52.00

Video Bios Date 06/04/03

Name GeForce FX 5600 Ultra
Chip Type GeForce FX 5600 Ultra
DAC Type Integrated RAMDAC
Memory 128 MBytes

Motherboard: MSI P35 Neo-F (Socket 775 LGA) Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40 Ghz Kentsfield Chipset: Intel P35 Graphics Card: Nvidia Geforce GT 440 Memory: 2x 2GB DDR2 800 RAM Storage: 1x IDE 80GB, 1x SATA II 500 GB, 1x External 500GB HD Power Supply: 600W Power supply Monitor: Dual screen set-up Casing: Mini-ATX Fan(s): 1x 80mm silent fan OS: Windows XP SP3


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Posted 01 May 2007 - 04:38 AM

You have a GeForce FX 5600 Ultra with 128 MB. A mediocre graphics card from a not even mediocre generation of graphics cards.
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 09:03 AM

Woow thanks for the link :inlove: I've seen a GeForce with 300+MB but its costly though :thumbsup: but after purchased,everythings worthwhile for the hard efforts and well money spent :trumpet:

Well, im trying to get a higher one at least about 256MB but is there anything lower than it or at least
between 128MB & 256 MB?

Also im also having troubles choosing by brands :flowers:
GeForce,Radeon,etc.
but anyways i'll decide to choose GeForce to make it easier :cool:
so all i need to know is the model of it
ex.GeForce....something.....something....etc. and how much MB it provides :woot:

For the Processor:
Bought a magazine...saw this Intel Core 2 Quad I think its used to run servers
powerful i suppose :cool: well im gonna look at mines in siw later on
i'll continue reading the mag to find out more stuff :huh:

Edited by Commander Gman, 01 May 2007 - 09:09 AM.

Motherboard: MSI P35 Neo-F (Socket 775 LGA) Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40 Ghz Kentsfield Chipset: Intel P35 Graphics Card: Nvidia Geforce GT 440 Memory: 2x 2GB DDR2 800 RAM Storage: 1x IDE 80GB, 1x SATA II 500 GB, 1x External 500GB HD Power Supply: 600W Power supply Monitor: Dual screen set-up Casing: Mini-ATX Fan(s): 1x 80mm silent fan OS: Windows XP SP3


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Posted 01 May 2007 - 09:08 AM

Found at CPU Section
Property Value
Number of CPU(s) One Physical Processor / One Core / One Logical Processor
Vendor GenuineIntel
CPU Full Name Intel Pentium 4
CPU Name Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 1.70GHz
CPU Code Name Willamette
Technology 0.18µ
Platform Name Socket 478
Type Original OEM processor
FSB Mode QDR
Platform ID 2
Microcode ID 2E
Type ID 0
CPU Clock 1700.07
System Bus Clock 400.02
System Clock 100.00
Multiplier 17.00
Original Clock 1700.00
Original Bus Clock 400.00
Original System Clock 100.00
Original Multiplier 17.00
Overclock 0.00%
L2 Cache Speed 1700.07 MHz
L2 Cache Speed Full
CPU Family / Model / Stepping F / 1 / 2
Family Extended 00
Brand ID 08
HyperThreading 1
L1 T-Cache 12 KµOps
L1 D-Cache 8 KB
L2 Cache 256 KB
RDMSR 00004100 00000000 8A01FE00 00000000
MMX Yes
SSE Yes
SSE2 Yes
SSE3 No
SSSE3 No
DualCore No
HyperThreading No
IA-64 No
Intel 64 (EM64T) No
XD No
VT No
SpeedStep No
Architecture x86

Edited by Commander Gman, 01 May 2007 - 09:18 AM.

Motherboard: MSI P35 Neo-F (Socket 775 LGA) Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40 Ghz Kentsfield Chipset: Intel P35 Graphics Card: Nvidia Geforce GT 440 Memory: 2x 2GB DDR2 800 RAM Storage: 1x IDE 80GB, 1x SATA II 500 GB, 1x External 500GB HD Power Supply: 600W Power supply Monitor: Dual screen set-up Casing: Mini-ATX Fan(s): 1x 80mm silent fan OS: Windows XP SP3


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Posted 01 May 2007 - 09:31 AM

The amount of memory alone doesn't say anything about how good the graphics card is.
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 02:52 PM

From this link ( http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&...amp;modelmenu=2 ) you can upgrade the processor up to a 3.4 or above P4. And, on the plus side, they're pretty cheap now that the Core 2 Duo's are out.
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 08:19 PM

Ok t.y. for the link :thumbsup:
I don't know much about the processor but is it that its with the motherboard itself?
As in if i am to upgrade my processor, One has to change the motherboard
I'll also look for the sockets & stuff within it
But the things i don't get is the memory compatibility part
and the BIOS
What is BIOS anyway?

The amount of memory alone doesn't say anything about how good the graphics card is.

well what else should i consider about the facts what makes a graphics good?

Edited by Commander Gman, 01 May 2007 - 08:21 PM.

Motherboard: MSI P35 Neo-F (Socket 775 LGA) Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40 Ghz Kentsfield Chipset: Intel P35 Graphics Card: Nvidia Geforce GT 440 Memory: 2x 2GB DDR2 800 RAM Storage: 1x IDE 80GB, 1x SATA II 500 GB, 1x External 500GB HD Power Supply: 600W Power supply Monitor: Dual screen set-up Casing: Mini-ATX Fan(s): 1x 80mm silent fan OS: Windows XP SP3


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Posted 01 May 2007 - 09:31 PM

well what else should i consider about the facts what makes a graphics good?

GeForce and Radeon are just fancy Names like Mustang and Camero what really matters is:

1)GPU Clock frequency
2)Pixel Shader Support (1.0,2.0, and so on higher is more recent and better)
3) DirectX version Compatibility
4)Available Video Memory ( Its going to steall from your PC RAM anyway so it might as well be last)
5) Im sure Ive forgot something

I don't know much about the processor but is it that its with the motherboard itself?
As in if i am to upgrade my processor, One has to change the motherboard
I'll also look for the sockets & stuff within it


You shouldnt have to change motherboards as long as you stick with Socket 478 Processors

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Posted 01 May 2007 - 10:19 PM

1)GPU Clock frequency
2)Pixel Shader Support (1.0,2.0, and so on higher is more recent and better)
3) DirectX version Compatibility
4)Available Video Memory ( Its going to steall from your PC RAM anyway so it might as well be last)
5) Im sure Ive forgot something


Ok uhh....... i only know no.3 (little of it actually) but can you explain it a bit further?
and the rest

Socket 478 Processors

what are those?
never heard of it before....

Motherboard: MSI P35 Neo-F (Socket 775 LGA) Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40 Ghz Kentsfield Chipset: Intel P35 Graphics Card: Nvidia Geforce GT 440 Memory: 2x 2GB DDR2 800 RAM Storage: 1x IDE 80GB, 1x SATA II 500 GB, 1x External 500GB HD Power Supply: 600W Power supply Monitor: Dual screen set-up Casing: Mini-ATX Fan(s): 1x 80mm silent fan OS: Windows XP SP3


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Posted 01 May 2007 - 10:41 PM

Socket 478 Processors
what are those?
never heard of it before....

That is the style Socket you listed you had in Post #9 right here

Platform Name Socket 478

That is how the processor connects to the motherboard

heres a list from Newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....name=Socket+478

As for the Graphics card I know just enough to get myself in trouble so im gonna pass

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