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''illegal Operation' Messages In Win98se


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#1 TQUAD

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 05:21 PM

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I am running Windows 98SE with all the updates and am constantly receiving 'damaging' messages that say 'This program has performed an Illegal Operation and must close'. Each time I close the resulting message I lose my desktop display as well as two or three of my systray icons next to the clock. I am left with a white desktop that says 'Restore active desktop' but it only restores the display and not the icons. To fully return to normal I have to reboot. I have posted the problem with the 'Software-Malware' section of Bleepingcomputer and their replies assure me it is not a malware related problem. I would appreciate any help I can get in eliminating this problem. I can't afford to change operating systems. Hopefully someone can assist me.
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 05:33 PM

Just a thought, but Win 9x had some problems running on minimal RAM.

How much RAM does that system have?


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Posted 16 April 2007 - 05:37 PM

Also, you might turn off "single click" on your desktop, if it is running.

Start, Settings, Folder Options, select "Classic Style".

You will have to double click shortcuts to get them to run, but if it resolves your problem, it would seem to be an acceptable trade-off.

Let us know if this helped, OK?


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Posted 16 April 2007 - 07:16 PM

his profile says 512mb on the RAM so that's no problem
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 02:31 AM

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Thanks for the fast replies. A further explanation of my operating conditions might help define the problem and what I've done so far. So you don't have to go to my profile and then come back, I have a Pentium III, 500MGHZ, 512mb ram, 2 X 40GIG HD, ATI All In Wonder Pro 8mb AGP-VGA, Creative Labs 64AWE Sound Card, U.S. Robotics Sportster 56K INT. Modem, Logitech 500 USB Wireless Keyboard, Kensington Expert Mouse Pro USB Trackball mouse, and a Sony WEGA 36inch TV [480X640] for the monitor. The system has worked fine in the past without any hardware problems. Several times malicious adware and or malware have been removed from the system but always with complete success. As I mentioned, the malware section of Bleepingcomputer has assured me that they feel the problem is not malware related.
The problem occurs when I open 'My Computer', open a specific drive, run a program and then close it. It can also happen if I select a program from the desktop, run it and then close it. After closing the program, or sometimes just before, I receive the message that it has 'Performed an Illegal Operation and must close'. When the message box is closed, then the desktop display vanishes as well as a few icons next to the clock. I have tried running the desktop as the 'Classical Style' and as a 'Webpage' without any difference. I have tried running just simple 'Wallpaper' instead of an image without any difference. I've checked and rechecked all the video card settings so as to match the display without any change. In short, I have gone through all of the hardware adjustments I can think of with no change. While at the other section I was unable to successfully run a program called 'silentrunners' to display the total registry. If any programs like it or HighJack This need to be run and posted please feel free to let me know. Last for now, I am unable to run the computer in Safe Mode due to the fact it won't recognise the mouse. Also, because I am handicapped, a quadriplegic, I'm not very good at MS-DOS commands or things that require any degree of dexterity. Please let me know if there's any other information needed. Thanks again.
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 07:00 AM

Could you give us the exact text of the error messages?

You may be facing a "repair" install of Win98SE - that is, installing it into the same directory that it's in now. This'll overwrite the system files with the versions off the disk. A disadvantage is that you'll have to go through all the updates again.
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 09:47 PM

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It took about ten minutes or less for me to 'Generate' FOUR 'Illegal Operation' messages. Each time the desktop display vanished as well as the systray icons. I've posted all of them for you to see. Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help. Thanks.
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ERROR NUMBER 1. SILENT RUNNINGS.

EXPLORER caused an invalid page fault in
module <unknown> at 0000:022432dc.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=0167 EIP=022432dc EFLGS=00010202
EBX=00eaf39e SS=016f ESP=00eaf350 EBP=00eaf36c
ECX=01430ff4 DS=016f ESI=0000c3c2 FS=10f7
EDX=0000c3de ES=016f EDI=00eaf354 GS=2a2f
Bytes at CS:EIP:

Stack dump:
bff7363b 00000890 0000001c 00000001 00000000 c39c7dd7 0000016f 00eaf380 bff94407 2a2fc3c2 00002a2f 00000000 bff719b8 0000c3bc 00eaf7f8 bff7186d

ERROR NUMBER 2. HIGHJACK THIS ATTEMPT.

EXPLORER caused an invalid page fault in
module <unknown> at 0000:01b532dc.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=0167 EIP=01b532dc EFLGS=00010202
EBX=00e9fa94 SS=016f ESP=00e9fa44 EBP=00e9fa60
ECX=01bc0ff4 DS=016f ESI=00008ab8 FS=1107
EDX=00008ad4 ES=016f EDI=00e9fa48 GS=3957
Bytes at CS:EIP:

Stack dump:
bff7363b 000005b8 0000001c 00000000 fffd0fad 8a9240b7 0000016f 00e9fa74 bff94407 39578ab8 00003957 00000000 bff719b8 00008ab2 00e9fe34 bff7186d

ERROR NUMBER 3. OPENING MY COMPUTER, DRIVE C.

EXPLORER caused an invalid page fault in
module <unknown> at 0000:00000001.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=0167 EIP=00000001 EFLGS=00010246
EBX=00eaf308 SS=016f ESP=00ead548 EBP=00ead55c
ECX=0143000f DS=016f ESI=0000832c FS=38e7
EDX=00ead54c ES=016f EDI=00eaf2bc GS=5257
Bytes at CS:EIP:
00 00 00 65 04 70 00 16 00 70 05 65 04 70 00 65
Stack dump:
022132f2 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00ead574 022132f2 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00ead58c 022132f2 00000000 00000000 00000000

ERROR NUMBER 4. OPENING MY COMPUTER. OPEN+CLOSE DRIVE C.

EXPLORER caused an invalid page fault in
module <unknown> at 0000:019832dc.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=0167 EIP=019832dc EFLGS=00010202
EBX=00e9f39e SS=016f ESP=00e9f350 EBP=00e9f36c
ECX=01b30ff4 DS=016f ESI=0000c3c2 FS=58af
EDX=0000c3de ES=016f EDI=00e9f354 GS=6eaf
Bytes at CS:EIP:

Stack dump:
bff7363b 00000b44 0000001c 00000001 00000000 c39c0da7 0000016f 00e9f380 bff94407 6eafc3c2 00006eaf 00000000 bff719b8 0000c3bc 00e9f7f8 bff7186d

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 12:57 PM

Some additional info
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Posted 19 April 2007 - 04:02 PM

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I've tried both 'Computerhope.com' and Microsoft for help, answers or suggestions to my problem. At 'Computerhope.com' I wasn't even able to figure out how to post my problem much less get any one on one help. The best that I was able to do was search their site for similar problems and that only got me topics about Windows 98se that were completely useless to me. As I've admitted before in my problem descriptions I'm not what you would call 'extremely computer literate' and consequently I don't understand how Windows works nearly as well as all the people offering help. When I've tried to use Microsoft's database or knowledge base I usually come away more confused than when I started. When I do understand what is being fixed or corrected it is usually something I've already done. I hope that those two suggestions were not my last hope. There must be some way I can find out what is corrupting my computers basic command system and causing all the 'Illegal Operation' messages when I simply open, close or run various items. I hope someone else can look at my registry or logfiles or whatever and tell me what I should do next to isolate the cause of the problems. Thanks again but still need help.
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