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Posted 03 March 2007 - 11:11 PM

Well here's a spreadsheet of all the parts for my new computer I'm building. Anything look good/bad? This is my first build, although I've done most of it before.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pV0...k0JSee8wihYuaFQ

btw, tell me how the google spreadsheet thing works, first time trying it.

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 08:10 AM

First of all: You don't need a 500W power supply for that machine. I'd estimate its power usage to 200-250W, which means you could get by with a high-quality 300W power supply and still have some headroom. Gigh-quality brand are CoolerMaster, Enermax, Fortron Source (FSP Group), OCZ, PC Power & Cooling, SeaSonic, Silverstone, Sparkle, Tagan, Vantec, Verax, Zalman.

Sound-quality wise the weak link is going to be the speakers, not the onboard sound. Also, the motherboards onboard sound is Realtek, which have serious issues with EAX implementation.
Exploring EAX with onboard audio

There are clearly problems with the EAX implementation of Realtek's HD Audio codec and its associated drivers. Despite the fact that Realtek claims to support EAX 2.0, obstructions and occlusions apparently haven't been implemented correctly, if at all. For some games, that's not a serious problem. For instance, FEAR plays fine, even if the audio isn't exactly right. However, the lack of proper occlusion and obstruction support makes Battlefield 2 unplayable with EAX effects enabled.

We observed these problems on a Foxconn motherboard with an ALC882D codec, but any motherboard that uses a Realtek codec for High Definition Audio is likely to be affected. After all, Realtek handles 3D audio in the driver, which is shared among all of its HD Audio codecs. (Realtek's AC97 audio drivers may have similar problems, but we haven't tested those.) Fortunately, Analog Devices appears to be doing EAX right, but that doesn't help if you already have a board based on a Realtek codec.

The Google spreadsheet looks nice, but the links don't work.
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Posted 04 March 2007 - 12:19 PM

Alright, I'll change the power supply to a 300-350 watt, and grab a decent soundcard. I really don't care much about the speakers, as I'll be using my nice sennheiser headset most of the time, the speakers are just for if more than just me need to hear something.

PS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817151021
Sound: I'll be moving this from my upstairs computer. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16829120103

The soundcard is cheap, but it's been working fine for all my needs.

Disappointed with google =(


Another quick q, is it worth it to get my current card over this other one?
current: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814150213
other: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814130062
or this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814130077 (recommended from a friend)

Edited by T, 04 March 2007 - 12:28 PM.

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Posted 06 March 2007 - 06:14 PM

*bump*
How does that powersupply look? If it looks good I'm just going to get it now as it just came back in stock.

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 06:29 AM

The power supply looks fine.

Of the three graphics cards you listed the 7800GT is the fastest but ti would also consume 20W more power.
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Posted 06 April 2007 - 08:37 AM

Well just so everybody knows, the first build went swimmingly. I highly recommend the case that I used (cooler master centurion 5), but the front panel is a little tricky to get off. I just pushed at the pegs with the back of a screwdriver.

Also, I've heard that ddr2 800 ram doesnt get detected properly and wont run up to speed on new motherboards, because of an intel issue. Do I have to overclock it back up to its speed?

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