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#1 EddieT.H.

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 07:18 PM

i plan to build my first computer very soon
I am trying to keep it in between 1800-1900 USD, although lower will also be good
i need help choosing monitors, i plan to make it dual monitor, but One is fine, if it goes over 1900
i May be going Sli but i am not exactly sure
i plan to overclock the processor, imnot sure if i will overrclock the memory, so i will need good cooling
plan to have 2 WD raptor configured in raid 0 (performance if i remeber)
These are the componets that i need help on:

Motherboard: has to have good upgrade ability, such as memory that can go to 8 gigs and a lot of pci-e x16 slots, good overclocking is a must

case: must be compatible with the motherboard, must have excellent cooling,i plan to have 4 fans to keep my
computer cool when i overclock, must be good looking and have a side panel windows as i plan to put in two stick of cathode light

Power supply: i want power that is good for SLi if i do Sli,

monitor: i plan to have dual, but if money is low, ill go with one

Fans: i need 4 good ones to make my computer cool when i overclock things


These are the componets i plan to have

Intel e4300 overclocked to 3.38
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16819115013

EVGA 8800 GTS 320 MB Might be buying two to make SLi, one will be sufficient if the grand total goes over 1900
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814130038

Tuniq tower 120, For cooling the overlcocked CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16835154001

Lite-On combo drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16827106029

WD raptor 74 GB OEM, getting two , raid 0
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822136033

CORSAIR XMS2 DOMINATOR 2GB, might be buying two for 4gig total
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820145168
Another alternate memory may be this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820145034

Logisys clk12bl = 2 of these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16800888026

Nec black 1.44mb floppy drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16821152005

OS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16832116175

Now that i got that listed, is there anything i am missing, i will use onboard audio, im not an audiophile
i've got keyboard and mouse already

must be under 1900

thank you for reading and ANY suggestions are welcome

Edited by EddieT.H., 25 February 2007 - 07:30 PM.

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 09:24 PM

First thing is first...where's your power supply? You'll need a good, name brand psu to run this system. Get a cheap one and you'll regret it (speaking from experience!). Something like THIS should do you...it's SLI ready, dual 12v lines both at 19amps, 12+4 main pin connector, 650w, name brand etc. etc.

Microsoft only recognizes 2 gb of ram, 3 if you alter an .inf file, so stick with 2 gigs and you'll be fine...no need for more unless you get a version of windows Vista that will support more than 2 gb :huh:

When ordering your fans, remember that the higher the CFM the better cooling. Of course, you could always go with a case like THIS and do away with those case fans! Yes, that is a fan on the side :huh: You can also add (i believe up to) a 120mm fan in the back (I know it'll hold an 80mm). No side window, but I don't think that you'll beat the cooling it'll offer. Also, the front fan is LED too.

As for the motherboards, TBH I haven't played around with the SLI ones so I can't say which one is better than that other. Perhaps someone else with a bit more experience with sli mobos will help you there.

Everything else looks good though. If it were me, I'd steer clear of the 10k rpm drives. Personally, I've seen them in use, and have had a computer with one in it and had it replaced by one that was 7200 rpm and didn't see that much of a difference. Just MHO though :thumbsup:
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Posted 25 February 2007 - 10:06 PM

OK, so i will(might) be getting 7200 rpm drives, but i need a good case with a window, i want lights :D and i know someone who works for corsair, so i might be able to get those LED memory i always wanted :D
I thought XPproSP2 64-bit supports 3 gig plus?
That case does look good though, Fan controller!
OK, i just read about raid, looks confusing, anyone want to give me step-by-step instructions on how to set up raid?

Edited by EddieT.H., 25 February 2007 - 11:09 PM.

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 08:36 PM

Anyone who has a motherboard and case suggestion? and step by step raid and Sli
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Posted 27 February 2007 - 08:18 PM

Is This motherboard good? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813131073 or i be getting something else?
Anyone have any Case Recommendations?
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Posted 27 February 2007 - 08:41 PM

That mobo will work for you. Meets the specs for your ram, cpu and pcie 16 cards.

As for a case, it's really up to you. You need to get something that's pretty (cool looking) and that's not cheap, as you don't want it to flop around when you're moving your computer. I'll post a few links to some cases I like from newegg below.....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811133154

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811144151

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811144026 (has side, top and rear fans!)
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Posted 27 February 2007 - 09:05 PM

ok, i will check out those, does anyone have any tips or guids on setting up raid 0 and SLi?
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Posted 28 February 2007 - 04:38 AM

Don't get SLI. Rather than two 8800GTS 320MB, get one 8800GTx.
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Posted 28 February 2007 - 07:44 AM

Don't get SLI. Rather than two 8800GTS 320MB, get one 8800GTx.


I had heard/read that someplace, but can't find any support where in some instances a single top end card will beat out 2 middle to high end cards....specially when it comes to "bang for the buck" (meaning it's not worth the price difference to buy 2 cards when you can get next to better results with a single card for less $$$).....got any links for reading Mr Alpha?
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Posted 28 February 2007 - 10:27 PM

So 1 GTX 768 mb is better than 2 GTS 3320 mb?
Anyways, should i get this mobo instead of the first one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813131153
I want a motherboard that can upgrade pretty well, Like future proof, or maybe the Asus P5N-E SLI?


I've found some case that i like
1st. Antec 900 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811129021 <- This looks like it has awsome cooling, am i correct?
2nd. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811196024
3rd. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811103008

Are those good?
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Posted 01 March 2007 - 12:37 AM

Well, I wouldn't "plan" on overclocking. Thats something I would do if I needed a couple more fps in a game or something. If you get a good enough cpu, you won't have to worry about overclocking. It can sometimes be dangerous. I don't mind overclocking my sempron 2800+ because Its only like $40. But for a $xxx processor, I think its risking too much.

And with the right combo of processor, vid card, ram, etc to avoid bottlenecking, my system can still run the newest games pretty good.

And the case doesn't matter. Its pretty much what looks the coolest to you. They all have good air flow.

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Posted 01 March 2007 - 12:59 AM

Well, imtrying to keep it under 2000, and i dont think you can get good performance with ae4300, not overclocked. i need a gaming machine under 2000
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Posted 01 March 2007 - 08:06 AM

There's more to a gaming machine than just the processor.....also, the slowest dual core cpu is faster than the fastest P4 cpu :huh:

With that said, the dual core has been tested and overclocked upwards of 3.1 ghz on a stock cooler with no issues. See this article at Toms Hardware HERE for some good reading on overclocking the core 2.

Also, see HERE where the core 2 E6600 (2.4ghz) spanks the P4 Prescot 3.73 ghz (fastest P4) :thumbsup:

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Posted 03 March 2007 - 12:15 AM

ok, ill keep the processor, should i get 2 cards for SLi or one GTX?
And which motherboard should i get...the 680i or the650i?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813131153
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813131073
or others....?
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Posted 03 March 2007 - 06:16 AM

Get one GTX instead of two GTSs. SLI isn't a painless straightforward experience. Just make sure you get a case big enough to fit the 8800GTX.

Get the 650i motherboard. There's no performance differences between it and the 680i.

The Antec Nine Hundred is a lovely case. Removing the fan in the middle of the case lest you fit a 8800GTX in there. The only issue is that screwing the hard drives into place is a PITA.
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