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#1 willis poe

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 09:42 PM

hi i was just wondering if it possible to upgrade from a amd sempron 3400+ to a pentium 4 duo processor and if so what would be the proper steps i would have to take to upgrade the processor

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Posted 06 February 2007 - 01:23 AM

I don't believe so (please, anyone, correct me if I'm wrong). The AMD Sempron 3400+ uses a 754 pin socket whereas the Intel Pentium 4 Duo uses a 775 pin socket. These two socket types are incompatable.

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Posted 06 February 2007 - 01:55 AM

No, no way. You can't interchange any processor with another. A few things have to match up between the processor and motherboard. Socket, FSB, etc.

No Intel and AMD processors are interchangable with each other. That's enough to say no right there. On top of that, the other specs don't match up.

Also worth noting, there is no Pentium 4 Duo processor. You're probably thinking of Core 2 Duo. If you even want to consider upgrading your system, it's important to know that. It's too easy to mess up.

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Posted 06 February 2007 - 04:22 AM

ok thanks for the quick response for this post. but one more quick is there a better processor for the amd sempron brand?

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Posted 06 February 2007 - 05:57 AM

Sempron 3400+ comes in both 754 and AM2 variants. The deciding factor as to to what and if at all you can upgrade is your motherboard. That is what we need to know to be able to help you. Helpful would also be the rest of the specs for the computer and why you need to upgrade.
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Posted 06 February 2007 - 06:30 PM

ok i understand is there a way to find out what type motherboard is in the computer without opening up the tower. the reason i want to upgrade so that the computer would go faster than it does now. and if possoble i would like to upgrade to the amd athon duo processor
. and also here are the specs you asked to look at if this helps any i bought the computer at walmart.
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Posted 06 February 2007 - 11:08 PM

those are two different companies and two totally different chips. Intel and AMD mobo arent interchangeable. Im sorry if this has been said but i was too lazy to read the posts above me lol.
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Posted 07 February 2007 - 12:34 AM

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 04:09 AM

these are the full spec for the computer and thanks very much for the help and time
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Posted 07 February 2007 - 08:29 AM

FYI - this appears to be one of the HP SlimLine systems - and it may give you more problems with cards than with a mobo (due to the reduced size available to place a card).

This link gives the specs of your system:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/prodinf...228&lang=en

This link gives the specs of your mobo:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/documen...167&lang=en
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