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#1 mykz78

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 12:05 AM

Even at startup, my memory usage is about 85% used and only 15% free (using freemeter). I've eliminated unnecessary startup items in the msconfig panel; there is an average of 41 processes shown at startup.

At startup, i have the following figures from the task manager:

Commit charge (K)

Total 232176
Limit 619780
Peak 233100


Physical Memory (K)

Total 2252336
Available 22996
System Cache 97216


My system is: Windows XP Pro SP2, Intel Celeron M, 256 DDR2 RAM

What may be causing this high memory usage? Please help. Thanks.

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 04:18 AM

Have a look in the Task Manager to see what's using up all your memory.
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 08:07 AM

at startup, usually...

explorer.exe has about 12,000 K,
svchost.exe about 6,000 K,
a few at the 2,000 and 1,000 K
and the others at the hundreds down to tens K level...

by the way, what's the appropriate page file size (max) for a 256 MB RAM? My page file size is at around 619 MB.

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 08:20 AM

explorer.exe has about 12,000 K,
svchost.exe about 6,000 K,
a few at the 2,000 and 1,000 K
and the others at the hundreds down to tens K level...


These don't seem excessive to me. Your real problem is that you only have 256MB of RAM, which is a bit on the low side for running XP.
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 08:31 AM

You should also have your RAM checked and also note that your hard drive could be failing. Your symptoms are part of what happens to a failing hard drive, which may cause high usage of memory.

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 08:45 AM

how do i have my RAM checked? and how do i confirm if my hard drive is failing? i just had this laptop 11 months ago.

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 08:48 AM

Check your RAM with this free utility: http://www.memtest86.com/

Check your hard drive by downloading the free utility at the hard drive manufacturer's website.
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 09:29 AM

There is software and also a web site that you can use to check your RAM, but unfortunately the search function isn't working properly for me right now.

But you can go here:
http://www.memtest86.com
You can download software to test you RAM.

As far as telling if your hard drive may be failing you? Do this:

Run a defrag on your computer. And while it's defraging, you need to look for blocks of red. Usually they will extend a few lines long when hard drives are going bad. Those red areas are telling you that that part of the hard drive can't be moved nor written to.... and sometimes read from. If you have multiple lines of red blocks in your defrag process, you probably have a bad hard drive.

Since i've lost 2 hard drives in my life so far, the defrag process was the only thing I used to tell for sure, and it was accurate both times, because both hard drives are now gone.

There may be more ways to tell, but your computer has a built-in way to find out, and that's the defragmentation process.

If your computer defrags for at least 12 hours or more, you better start backing up your hard drive. But it will take hours to do, depending on the size of your drive. Once it starts,, leave it alone and go about your business because it will take some time to complete.

But look for either large sections of red blocks, or multitude of red blocks (spanning across many rows)...... and it will most likely be the indication of a failing hard drive.

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 05:24 AM

I'm not sure that you have problems with the memory itself. Yes, you could add more RAM, but this also costs money which is a consideration. What you can do instead is disable from starting up what doesn't need to. You have 41 processes starting up. I guarantee you that on 256 RAM, which is what I have, that this is way too many. Check out BC's start-up list to investigate your start-up entries to find out what you don't need running at start up.

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 06:37 AM

But look for either large sections of red blocks, or multitude of red blocks (spanning across many rows)...... and it will most likely be the indication of a failing hard drive.



whoo, take a lot at this... what do you say?

Drive C before defrag

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Drive C after defrag

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Drive D before and after defrag

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I've partitioned my drive to C and D.

Well, there were no long or multiple red lines during the defrag process. In fact, it only ran for an estimate of 10-15 minutes. Does this mean my hard drive is still fine? Huh, it's just 11 months old.

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 07:35 AM

I'm not sure that you have problems with the memory itself. Yes, you could add more RAM, but this also costs money which is a consideration. What you can do instead is disable from starting up what doesn't need to. You have 41 processes starting up. I guarantee you that on 256 RAM, which is what I have, that this is way too many. Check out BC's start-up list to investigate your start-up entries to find out what you don't need running at start up.

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RAM is still too expensive, can't afford it yet. I've cleaned up the startup processes further (since i usually exclude unnecessary processes from even before), and is down to 36 processes. The rest are essential ones.

Hey, Orange Blossom, how many do you have at startup? if you don't mind, what's your systems specs?

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 07:44 AM

Have a look through your services and see if there is anything you can disable, which should free up a bit more RAM. See this link for more information.
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 08:22 AM

There is software and also a web site that you can use to check your RAM, but unfortunately the search function isn't working properly for me right now.

But you can go here:
http://www.memtest86.com
You can download software to test you RAM.

As far as telling if your hard drive may be failing you? Do this:

Run a defrag on your computer. And while it's defraging, you need to look for blocks of red. Usually they will extend a few lines long when hard drives are going bad. Those red areas are telling you that that part of the hard drive can't be moved nor written to.... and sometimes read from. If you have multiple lines of red blocks in your defrag process, you probably have a bad hard drive.

Since i've lost 2 hard drives in my life so far, the defrag process was the only thing I used to tell for sure, and it was accurate both times, because both hard drives are now gone.

There may be more ways to tell, but your computer has a built-in way to find out, and that's the defragmentation process.

If your computer defrags for at least 12 hours or more, you better start backing up your hard drive. But it will take hours to do, depending on the size of your drive. Once it starts,, leave it alone and go about your business because it will take some time to complete.

But look for either large sections of red blocks, or multitude of red blocks (spanning across many rows)...... and it will most likely be the indication of a failing hard drive.


Those red lines or large blocks of red don't indicate a failing hard drive. All they are is fragmented files. To test the drive(s) use the drive manufacturer's utility.

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 02:55 PM

I've cleaned up the startup processes further (since i usually exclude unnecessary processes from even before), and is down to 36 processes. The rest are essential ones.

Hey, Orange Blossom, how many do you have at startup? if you don't mind, what's your systems specs?


I have 30 that run at start-up. After a while it goes down to 29. Note that my computer is a standalone, so I have disabled a number of services that a computer on a local network would need to have running. I also do not do automatic updates, I do all updates manually. You can see my signature for my computer specs.

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 09:36 AM

just got my laptop back from the service center.

they say there was a worm in my drive. the drive crashed and they replaced it with a new one.

well, things are working out quite fine now. this topic may already be closed.

thanks guys for the help.




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