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Can't Boot After Partition Resize With Partitionmagic


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#1 blackberet

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 03:17 AM

So I have XP and wanted to dual boot with a Linux distribution. I don't know a whole lot about partitioning but finally came across PartitionMagic and decided to make use of it to get a Linux partition set up.

I have a 160GB hard drive(NTFS) that had about 20GB available. Following the Flash tutorial's instructions, I first tried to install BootMagic. When I did so I was prompted to first create a small 20-50MB FAT/FAT32 partition for BootMagic to reside in. Okay, fair enough...

I went back into PartitionMagic to create a new partition. I had to resize my initial primary partition down some, as apparently only about 7MB were "unallocated." So I resized it down to just a bit above what I assume was to 140GBish mark (PartitionMagic doesn't let you resize smaller than what is already being used... probably an obvious point but I'm trying to be clear in my post). I then created a new FAT32 logical partition of 50MB for BootMagic. Both the resizing of my primary partition and creation of the new logical partition were done in the same session, and at that point I "applied" these settings and was prompted reboot for the changes to take effect.

All was well for about 20 minutes while the partition was being resized and the new one was being created. At about 30% progress, however, I received an error (something to the effect of "there was not enough space to create this partition. I'm going to exit now.") and the system rebooted...only to take me to the Safe Mode selection screen. Choosing any of the options there loads the system for about 2 seconds longer, then the computer reboots. Ack!

I chatted with someone with symantec and they led me to a page (http://service1.symantec.com/Support/powerquest.nsf/docid/2004092569008862) that initially seemed pretty right on target. It instructs me to download ptedit.exe in order to edit the partition table. The bulk of my troubles today have come from trying to run ptedit on a computer that doesn't boot. I'm not very familiar with DOS or with booting operations, so I'm hoping someone can lend a helping hand. I have a lot of data on my HD so I'm really hoping to get things back to somewhat normal.

Thanks in advance!

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 03:29 AM

If you can actually get into safe mode, I'd try one of two things: system restore choosing a date and time just before you installed BootMagic or used the Partition Magic, whichever came first. If that doesn't work, I'd then try the Last Known Configuration to get a working system again.

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 03:34 AM

Like I said, after choosing any of the safe mode options the computer only loads for a couple more seconds and then reboots again...

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 08:09 AM

I'd suggest a repair install at this point: http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

Although you could try repairing the MBR and boot files with the Recovery Console also.

Dunno how well this will work with the PM Boot manager - but it's worth a shot.

FWIW - I've had many problems with PM because I've tried to do too much at once. Now when I use it, I only do one thing at a time and take the time to reboot between operations. Things go much more smoothly for me this way.

If the repair install doesn't work, then I'd suggest using PM (one step at a time) to put your disk back in the shape that it was before all this started. Then run the repair install and that should fix it.

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 02:42 PM

Although you could try repairing the MBR and boot files with the Recovery Console also.


What is the MBR, and how do I repair that or the boot files in the Recovery Console (I know how to get to the Recovery Console with the XP CD, but that's about it)?

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Posted 28 January 2007 - 02:12 AM

Once in the Recovery Console, type these 3 commands and press Enter after each one:

fixmbr
fixboot
bootcfg /rebuild

This'll correct most boot problems - but I have absolutely no idea how it will affect the Boot Magic stuff. It may not affect it at all, or it may hose everything - it's at your own risk!
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 02:55 PM

Well I'll give those a try. I already attempted a repair install, but the repair option is gone from the Windows Setup screen now. The other suggestions Michael Stevens provides on that page are a no go as well.

I've come to grips with hosing my system at this point. If those 3 commands don't fix anything I'm just going to do a complete clean install. Goodbye 20GB of music...

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Posted 28 January 2007 - 04:06 PM

You might be able to save your data by hooking up your drive as a slave to another one. Usasma knows how to do this - I don't.

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Posted 28 January 2007 - 11:23 PM

Slaving is easiest with a USB drive caddy - then you just plug the drive in and copy the stuff over. Access Denied errors may occur - but those are relatively easy to fix.

You can also slave with another system - just be sure that the jumpers on the drives are set appropriately - "Slave" for your drive and "Master" for the drive on the system you're slaving it with.

Here's a link about the Access Denied errors: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/42756/how-to-fix-an-access-denied-errors/

Finally, you may be able to access the drive with a Live Linux distro, a BartPE bootdisk, the UBCD (Ultimate Boot CD), or with a DOS boot disk that contains CD drivers and an NTFS reader.
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 01:16 AM

Well saints be praised! Or perhaps I should say, Usasma be praised. I typed in the three commands you listed into the Recovery Console (with an obligatory "chkdsk" between the second and third), after which my windows installation was recognized again and I was able to do a repair install. At that point PartitionMagic kicked back in and resumed the partitioning, and about a half hour later I was back to my original desktop, everything intact!

Thanks a ton for the help. Now the music can live on....

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:27 AM

As you learn more and more about computers you'll be trying new things - an unfortunate side-effect of these things is that you'll sometimes hose your OS. So, don't forget to backup now so you won't regret it later! Good luck!
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