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#1 fleamour

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 05:46 PM

Hi

This may sound stupid but...

...is it possible to network my laptop to my desktop Ethernet port to Ethernet port using just a cat5e UTP cross-wired lead? I've a feeling this is a resounding "no!" having tried it already. What additional kit do I need? I have a Zoom wireless router/4-port switch, however this only allows me to share an internet connection & not share/transfer files as I had originally intended.

Any help much appreciated.

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Edited by fleamour, 20 January 2007 - 05:48 PM.

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 05:52 PM

So are you trying to say that you want to network 3 computers via a crosswired lead?
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 05:57 PM

Desktop to laptop via cross-wired lead.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 06:17 PM

Have you configured file sharing within the OS? You don't mention having done that. If not here is a link to get you started.
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharin...filesharing.htm

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#5 fleamour

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 08:10 PM

Yes, I expended a great deal of time along with copious amounts of profanity (Grrrr :thumbsup: !!!) configuring file sharing guided by Microsoft's web help pages, no less.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 12:28 AM

Yes you can do this PC to PC, but in addition to enabling file sharing, you've got to set each PC up so it'll recognize the other one.

Enabling NetBIOS over TCP is usually the easiest way to do this (in the Network Connection properties).
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 09:00 PM

I have had partial success. My laptop detects the family PC when viewing workgroup computers, however I do not have access. My desktop does not detect my laptop in ''View Workgroup Computers'' but does show my laptop's shared files under ''The Internet'' and not the ''Local Network''. In a nutshell my desktop has access to my laptops files but not the other way round.

Edited by fleamour, 21 January 2007 - 09:49 PM.

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Posted 22 January 2007 - 08:28 AM

Do you have "mirrored" accounts on each computer? That is, is there an identically named account with an identical password on both computers. If not, don't just change the name of a current account (Windows networking doesn't like that trick) - but create a new account on one of the computers that is already on one of the others (that doesn't have a changed name either).

Often times this little trick will bypass the Workgroup sharing restrictions that normally are caused by the Guest account.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 11:35 AM

I will try suggested.

More info:

I can see no LAN icon in either system tray. I have manually set each IP address and enabled NetBIOS over TCP/IP. One possibility is that my laptop has faux Windows that can't update itself, also I am trying to network XP home with XP Pro, not sure if that would be a problem. There is no hardware conflicts, both computers belong to the same workgroup, I have run Network Setup Wizard on each, I have pinged all computers on my network, they have basic connectivity. Also maybe the bus speed is too fast for network adaptor but that involves changing the CMOS settings which is a bit out of my depth. I have tried reinstalling my network adaptors & respective clients. I have switched off both Zone Alarm & Windows Firewall.

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I really am at a loss?!?

Edited by fleamour, 22 January 2007 - 11:38 AM.

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Posted 22 January 2007 - 12:51 PM

Did you set your IP addresses? IE: desktop being 192.168.1.10 and laptop being 192.168.1.11?

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Posted 22 January 2007 - 12:57 PM

Desktop: 192.168.1.100

Laptop: 192.168.1.101

Edited by fleamour, 22 January 2007 - 12:57 PM.

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Intel C2D E8400 3.0GHz/low profile Noctua (single fan)
4GB OCZ DDR2 RAM, GeForce GT220 1024MB

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512MB KingSpec RAM, 1GHz CPU [T22 Fan], Wireless-G PCMCIA, 7200RPM HDD




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