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#1 boopme

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 11:19 PM

I've been busy with this the last few weeks,getting signatures and support. Any way to keep it short these guys are down to their final 24 hours. I know it may be innapropriate for the Forum ,but I must ask.. I realise there are a possible 100k people to look at this and I only thought of this post now. Soory to be brief and perhaps a bit jumbled ... but time

Here's my latest letter of response from Grassfire.org
Peter,

Border Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean are just 24 hours
from reporting to federal prison to serve 11 and 12 years for
their attempt to apprehend an illegal alien drug smuggler.

Last week, Ron De Jong and I had the privilege of meeting
Jose Compean and his wife while presenting 225,000 petitions
to members of Congress on Capitol Hill. The Compeans expressed
their heartfelt thanks for everything you have done in signing
this petition, making phone calls, faxes, etc.

Would you take up their cause again today and make yet
another round of phone calls?

Here is a list of calls:

The White House: 202-456-1414

Justice Department: 202-514-2001

New Jersey Sen. Menendez (202) 224-4744

New Jersey Sen. Lautenberg (202) 224-3224

FIND your Senators here
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_info...enators_cfm.cfm

The only official word from the White House came through
Spokesman Tony Snow last week who gave no indication that
the President is considering taking action.

There is so much at stake here, first for these two agents
and their families who have already paid such a high price,
and secondly for our nation.

In the minds of millions of Americans, if these men go to
jail this President will have sided with an illegal
alien drug smuggler instead of the men and
women who are literally standing on the wall
protecting our nation's borders.

For photos from our delivery, my interview with Agent Ramos
and other resources, go here:

http://www.grassfire.net/r.asp?u=1272&rid=12043563

By the way, we've added another 25,000 petition signers since our
delivery to Congress just a few days ago! Citizen outrage
continues to build. If you have friends who want to take action,
urge them to sign the petition here:

http://www.grassfire.org/142/petition.asp?PID=12043563

Thank you for the stand you are taking.


Steve Elliott, President
Grassfire.org Alliance

Dear Felow BC members:
Won't you please consider calling,writing or signing the petittion to FREE these 2 men who are headed for prison for doing their jobs and protecting us...

Their Story

The Border Patrol Inquisition

Be a Border Patrol agent: Do your job, go to prison. That's how the job must look to agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean.

In February 2005, the agents tried to stop a van driven by drug smuggler Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila near the Mexico border. After a scuffle with Compean, Aldrete-Davila fled on foot. Ramos says he saw a gun -- which the smuggler denies. Both agents fired at Aldrete-Davila, who fell, but continued his escape across the border


agents sentenced to prison

We Have Seen Better Days

People of the Year: Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean

Edited by boopme, 16 January 2007 - 11:21 PM.

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Posted 17 January 2007 - 09:11 PM

I would like to help boopme, but I'm not an US citizen.
I think they deserve, at least, a new trial.
Regards,
Darthy

Edited by Darthy, 17 January 2007 - 09:12 PM.

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Posted 17 January 2007 - 09:52 PM

I've signed the petition. :thumbsup:

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Posted 17 January 2007 - 10:28 PM

I signed it to. That is the most pitful junk I have seen in a while. Defending theirselves and being put in jail.

Our government man....Its like they are not even on our side anymore!

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Posted 17 January 2007 - 11:19 PM

Thanks for helping, everyone counts :thumbsup: .appreciate your intent Darthy :flowers:

What else bites here is you know this smuggler will next sue the US and win big bucks for being a criminal.

Edited by boopme, 17 January 2007 - 11:30 PM.

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Posted 18 January 2007 - 12:01 AM

What else bites here is you know this smuggler will next sue the US and win big bucks for being a criminal.


If he wins we need to all stand up as americans and say NO MORE!

Our tax money to a criminal?

Our law needs to be re-written for the good law obiding citizens not the thiefs and crooks.

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Posted 18 January 2007 - 12:21 AM

So basically they're sending the message that you shouldn't do your job so well in the US, or rather try to, but don't try too hard. Posted Image

If they send these men to jail, they might as well just give the smuggler the money. They've already given him immunity to testify that even though he was doing something wrong those men on the border patrol should pay.

In the words of Assistant U.S. Attorney Debra Kanof, “It is a violation of Border Patrol regulations to go after someone who is fleeing.”

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. So basically, their jobs is to patrol the border and report if there is any suspicious activity going on, but they can't do anything about it??
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 08:19 AM

Today is a bit sadder for all of us1/17/2007

Peter,

Border Agents Jose Compean and Ignacio Ramos have been ordered
by Judge Kathleen Cardone to surrender to the United States
Marshal by 3 pm (EST) today!

Both agents had filed a motion with the court to remain free
on bond while they appeal their case. With this ruling, the
agents must begin serving their sentences beginning today!

To read the story, and Grassfire's news release click here:

http://www.dailybulletin.com/news/ci_5028599

Read Grassfire's release:

http://grassfire.org/NewsReleases/20070117-229.htm

I am outraged by this devastating ruling, and want our team
to know that this issue is not over!

This decision to send these men to prison--where they will
likely be placed among the drug dealers and gang members they
put in prison themselves will no doubt send a terrible message
to every law enforcement official in the nation, that our
justice department, our government no longer has your back!

Just two weeks ago, National Guardsmen were fired upon on
the border. But because they cannot engage, they had to retreat!

This is utter madness.

Yesterday, Rep. Ted Poe (R-TX) delivered your petitions directly
to the White House in a twelfth-hour effort to keep these men
from going to prison. The White House did not respond. Why hasn't
the President commented on this case? I want to know!

As mentioned earlier, this issue is far from over.

Grassfire is committed to working to free these men who swore
to protect us. Ron De Jong and I will be presenting your
petitions and meeting with members of the media today, and we
will challenge the President and our Justice System... In short,
we will be bold for these men, and I need you to do the same!

I am personally appealing to each member of our Grassfire team
to stand in the gap for agents Compean and Ramos. Continue
telling their story to friends and rallying much needed
grassroots support.

But it can't end there. Continue pressuring the White House--
demanding they pardon these men!

Here is the White House number: 202/456-1111

Together we must be bold for these dedicated family men who
stood for us. Now we must stand for them until this terrible
wrong is made right!

Thanks for taking immediate action with me.

Steve Elliott
President
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 07:08 PM

UPDATE:
the fight still goes on for these men.

Fox TV's "America's Most Wanted"
will run a story featuring Agents Ramos and Compean, this
Saturday, February 2.

According to the National Border Patrol Council, the
Department of Justice has twice asked that the show
not be aired!
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 08:10 PM

Correct me if I am wrong.

The agents shot an unarmed man in the back. They did not know that he was an illegal or that he was a drug smuggler.

What is the moral issue here? They shot an unknown man in the back because he was running away. As far as I know that is illegal.

Please enlighten me. I genuinely don't see the dilema.
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Posted 03 February 2007 - 03:44 PM

Correct me if I am wrong.

The agents shot an unarmed man in the back. They did not know that he was an illegal or that he was a drug smuggler.

What is the moral issue here? They shot an unknown man in the back because he was running away. As far as I know that is illegal.

Please enlighten me. I genuinely don't see the dilema.


I think it says somewhere " He thought he saw a gun".I really don't see justice in shooting a man in the back.
Anywhere anytime.................Maybe in Russia or other countries.But they don't do that in the USA without getting serious heat from other officials and higher ups.Not to mention the press if they find out this kind of thing.Lets not forget to mention they lied and tried to cover it up.

Edited by wesburnsco86, 03 February 2007 - 03:48 PM.

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 09:47 PM

Hello Constantine and wesburnsco86...Sorry I am extremely busy as of late and hadn't had time to respond.
Actually as in the first post I was very hurried just to get the post up as there was only hours left. I didn't get to place perhaps enough info. Please read thru this article as it covers most of it in one place.
It explains the shooting as firing and the guy turned to run. This person is and was smuggling 800 lbs. of drugs that day . It's not his only day.

the smuggler stopped and turned toward Ramos and pointed what appeared to be a gun. Agent Ramos
raised his pistol and fired one shot, upon which the suspect spun around and continued running for the river.

both agents and their families have been subjectedto death threats. In fact, according to the smuggler Aldrete-Davila, some of his drug-cartel associates from Mexico planned a “hunting party” to track down and execute Ramos and Compean.

Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila — an admitted felon and drug smuggler — has not only gotten off scot-free, he stands to become a rich man, courtesy of the U.S. taxpayers.

Many are outraged by what from all appearances is a colossal miscarriage of justice. Members of Congress on both sides of the aisle are calling for an investigation, and a national grass-roots campaign has stirred tens of thousands of Americans to call on President Bush to intervene and grant full pardon to agents Ramos and Compean.
Rep. Ted Poe (R-Texas), who served as a prosecutor for eight years and a judge for 22 years, questions Assistant U.S. Attorney Debra Kanof’s granting of immunity to a repeat felon with a huge financial interest
to lie to prosecute federal law enforcement agents who were doing their jobs. “That’s exactly what the overzealous prosecutor did in this case. No question about it,”
Rep. Poe told CNN’s Casey Wian on August 21. “In my opinion, the government was on the wrong side. We ought to be more concerned about our border agents who were put in harm’s way, who are shot at by these drug dealers than we are about the civil rights of the drug smugglers.”

Aldrete-Davila, in exchange for agreeing to testify against the agents, was given free medical
treatment in the United States, then escorted back to Mexico and released. He was also coached in his testimony by U.S. government officials, then brought back to the United States and trotted out as the star
witness against Ramos and Compean. In the meantime, during his release, Aldrete-Davila was arrested again with another drug load in the same El Paso sector where Ramos and Compean had previously intercepted him. Nevertheless, he was allowed to testify


Video from CNN..Lou Dobbs program " If you haven't been outraged yet, this report will leave you completely ill and disgusted beyond words. "

If you scroll down HERE among the many article links on this page you can get the other 3 parts of the Cnn broadcast.
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Posted 03 February 2007 - 10:09 PM

Thanks for those links boopme,

I am conviced. It certainly appears like a huge miscarraige of justice. I would have thought an administrative penaltywould have been appropriate in this case. A long jail sentence is certainly out of all proportion.

Thanks for setting me straight.
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Posted 04 February 2007 - 12:13 AM

Thanks for reading. btw the Administrative penalty for what they did wrong is 3 days suspention,no pay.
This is not over. I hope you were able to see the spot on TV.
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