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Boot Up Problem (windows Xp)


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#1 chris91

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Posted 05 January 2007 - 02:14 AM

Hi,

I'm running Windows XP Pro on another computer and I am unable to get to the bootscreen. I used to have a selection between a custom bootscreen and the windows XP one. I tried to remove the custom one and now I fear I may have screwed up the boot.ini or the ntoskrnl file. I have my windows XP disk and I have tried to replace the boot.ini file but I am unsure if I am doing it correctly.

What happens is I turn my computer on, and it runs up until the bootscreen should come up, then the monitor says "no signal" and it reboots straight away without the bootscreen coming up at all. After reboot It then comes up with the option of running windows normally, in safe mode, last known working configuration.. all of them have the same result. I can press delete to get into setup and I can load up the Windows XP CD.

Any help would be appreciated.

Edited by chris91, 05 January 2007 - 03:57 AM.


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Posted 05 January 2007 - 02:17 AM

You could try doing a repair install of XP.
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Posted 05 January 2007 - 02:19 AM

I have ready over that option and this applies to me:

5. Select the XP installation you want to repair from the list and press R to start the repair. If Repair is not one of the options, END setup. After the reboot read Warning#2!

Thankyou for the suggestion though.

Edited by chris91, 05 January 2007 - 02:22 AM.


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Posted 05 January 2007 - 02:28 AM

Well the only other thing I can think of is to try and fix the boot.ini using the Recovery Console.

Boot your system with the XP CD

Press R to get to the Recovery Console.

Type in "bootcfg" without the quotes.

After doing this see if it boots okay. If not try the repair install again and then see if it's okay.

This shouldn't delete all your installed programs and files but I won't guarantee that.
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Posted 05 January 2007 - 04:03 AM

I have also tried that procedure

"1.Boot with XP CD or 6 floppy boot disk set.

2. Press R to load the Recovery Console.

3. Type bootcfg.

4. This should fix any boot.ini errors causing setup not to see the XP OS
install.

5. Try the repair install."

along with bootcfg /rebuild

and also tried

COPY C:\i386\ntldr C:
COPY C:\i386\ntdetect.com C:

which come back with "acces denied"

Edited by chris91, 05 January 2007 - 04:05 AM.


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Posted 05 January 2007 - 04:11 AM

If you have a boot CD such as UBCD or a live Linux distro you should be able to copy the files:

ntldr
ntdetect.com

without the access problems.

You can also try the following commands from the recovery console:

fixboot
fixmbr

If this doesn't work I'm out of ideas other than a complete re-install of XP. Hopefully someone else will have a good idea.

Edited by Budapest, 05 January 2007 - 04:24 AM.

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Posted 05 January 2007 - 05:53 AM

ok, i will try fixboot and fixmbr in the recovery console. Is it worth me downloading UBCD and giving it a shot??

Anyway, heres what i've been trying in the recovery console etc. and what has been coming up:

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bootcfg /list.

Total entries - 4
[1] Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[2] Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (Bootscreen)
[3] Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
[4] Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (Bootscreen)

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CHKDSK /p

- The Volume appears to conatin one or more unrecoverable problems.

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bootcfg /add

Identified Windows Installs: 1
Select Installation to add: I press 1
Enter load identifier: I type Microsoft Windows XP Proffesional
Enter OS Load options: I type /fastdetect

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When I go in to the Windows XP Pro Setup it gives me three options

- To set up windows on selected item press enter
- To create a partition in the unpartitioned space press C
- To delete selected Partition press D.

If I choose to set up windows by pressing enter it comes up with
"You have chosen to install windows XP on a partition that contains another operating system".

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I have a 50gb external HDD, is there anyway I could back up any of my files onto it the way it is?

Thanks,
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Posted 05 January 2007 - 06:07 AM

If CHKDSK is showing that the volume has unrecoverable problems then it may mean that you need a new hard-drive.

Go to the website of the manufacturer of your HD and you should be able to download a tool that will test the drive and provide more information on its status. The tool should be a bootable CD that you can boot your system off and run the HD tests.

Even if your HD is shot you still should be able to get most, if not all, of your important data off it by using the UBCD. This should allow you to copy the files onto your external HD.
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Posted 05 January 2007 - 06:24 AM

ok, i will check the website.

Also, when I type fixmbr in to the console it returns:

" Your computer seems to have a non-standard or invalid master boot record. Fixmbr may damage or make it become inaccessible. Are you sure you want to run fixmbr? "

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Posted 05 January 2007 - 06:41 AM

In that case I would definitely try recovering your data with the UBCD before trying fixmbr as a last resort before a re-format. Unless anyone else here has any better suggestions. But run the HD test before trying fixmbr, because if the test shows that your HD is shot then fixmbr isn't going to save you.
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