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Be vary careful with the ATI GPU model names. ATI has over a hundred different GPU's floating around out there, all with very similar names. The smallest change in name and might be a huge difference in hardware. You need to be very specific to avoid buying something you were not meaning to buy, and for anybody to understand you.
I had hoped you would just put the 'x' before the 1700 and it would be self-evident, :/
My point was not that you couldn't run oblivion on a x1600. Rather that to go from 8 fps at max settings with a low (1024x768) resolution to 30-40 fps would require more drastic measures than going down to high-quality settings with some tweaks.
The reports you presented are for Oblivion on max image settings. Now, that's a pretty rough benchmark to be working with.
Just compare to HL2 under same conditions, or worse +AA conditions and it's considerably slower.
About EQ II; it doesn't really look any better even at very high sittings. Sure, it has all the cool graphical technologies, but there is more to looking good than technology. WoW looks better, even if it is technically inferior.
Unfortunatley EQ II nor Far Cry were tested.
I can achieve 20-40 FPS in EQ II and Far Cry with the Nvidia 6150 at 1024 res with manual graphics/sound tweaking. 75%+ aimed towards image quality.
A x1900GT at such a price is probably quite a find.
Based on that, the 1650 should provide enough, however, since I am replacing the board, and also changing out the ram from DDR to DDR2, I've decided to use a x1900GT DDr3 as I secured one for 20 more dollars.
Your preaching to the choir here. There is a definitive case of diminished returns in the graphics card market. With reasonable expectations you can go far without emptying the wallet. Although there has been a hugh focus on graphics theses last few years, making the graphics card the slowest link in many a gaming computer, and that has been driving up the average price of a graphics card. We can hope that the advent of multi-core gaming and the recent focus on physics will help break that tradition.
More and more as I'm catching up to date with the current technology, I'm finding that ignorance has taken precedence over gamer's remarks and comments.
There are far too many kids fraggin away with 8800s, who A) Probably didn't pay for the card (thanks mom!) Have done none, or very little system, software or hardware tweaking (excluding overclocking...bad) and C) Like to spout off about how any card less expensive or less current then theirs, HAS to be utter crap.
I like to use my "Horse vs the Pony" analogy. $240,000 Ferarri F-40. Beautiful machine, having it's doors blown off by a finely tuned 1988 Saleen Mustang, which you could probably afford for a bit cheaper...just a LITLE bit
Posted 02 January 2007 - 12:19 PM
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