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#1 1up2down

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Posted 14 November 2006 - 03:42 AM

I have just installed Windows XP Pro x64 and having a problem finding a Firewall that will run on it. Can anyone tell me if they know of any that will. I would also be grateful if anyone can tell me if there is any site where I can get advice on what other programs are suitable for running on XP Pro x64 as many of mine will not.

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Posted 14 November 2006 - 08:49 AM

This is a major problem with the 64 bit OS - there is virtually no support for it. IMO this points to it (the 64 bit OS) not being ready for prime time yet. It'll come, but not in time to solve your problem here.

I thought that the 64 bit XP had a 32 bit compatability mode? Does it? If so, can you run the installers using that mode?
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Posted 14 November 2006 - 01:06 PM

This is a major problem with the 64 bit OS - there is virtually no support for it. IMO this points to it (the 64 bit OS) not being ready for prime time yet. It'll come, but not in time to solve your problem here.

I thought that the 64 bit XP had a 32 bit compatability mode? Does it? If so, can you run the installers using that mode?


You make it sound as though I have just made a monster of a mistake purchasing the 64 bit version of XP Pro. I thought that having a computer with a 64 bit processor it would be pointless getting an operating system that only ran on 32 bit. So why do they produce a 64 bit processor if it's only intended to run 32 bits?

I cannot find any mention of it having a 32 bit compatible mode, but what I can't understand is, why does the Windows own firewall that came with the installation CD not even work. I've tried several firewalls and all with the same results, either they will not install, or they do not operate. Some just tell you outright that you can't install them onto a 64 bit operating system.

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Posted 14 November 2006 - 04:27 PM

The Windows XP firewall should work, but it only gives half the protectection needed.

From the Zone Alarm website:
Windows XP Fully supported
All currently shipping ZoneAlarm products will run without limitation on the Windows XP operating system.
(click "more info" in system requirements)
http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/cata...amp;lid=ho_zass

It should therefore work with the Windows XP 64 bit version.

Try the free download version (all the way on the right hand side)
http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/comp...=US&lang=en

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Posted 14 November 2006 - 04:51 PM

The Windows XP firewall should work, but it only gives half the protectection needed.

From the Zone Alarm website:
Windows XP Fully supported
All currently shipping ZoneAlarm products will run without limitation on the Windows XP operating system.
(click "more info" in system requirements)
http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/cata...amp;lid=ho_zass

It should therefore work with the Windows XP 64 bit version.

Try the free download version (all the way on the right hand side)
http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/comp...=US&lang=en


Thanks for that info and for trying to help. I already have Zone Alarm installed on my Windows XP Home Edition on my other partition. However, it's not compatible with either x64 or Vista.

The Windows Firewall shows as being ON, but it does not appear to be doing anything. I am just reading up on that. As you say, it's only likely to offer half the protection, but that's better than none at all.

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Posted 14 November 2006 - 05:43 PM

On the Microsoft forum Discussions in Home Users Security Discussions

"Outpost v4 firewall is now available and supports x64."

30 day trial at http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/download.php

in microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertz...&sloc=en-us


Also, from Agnitum:
Does Outpost Firewall support 64 bit architechture?
"Yes, since version 4.0 Outpost Firewall supports 64 bit architecture."
http://www.agnitum.com/support/kb/article....165&lang=en

What are you using for an av ap?

Edited by Enthusiast, 14 November 2006 - 05:45 PM.


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Posted 15 November 2006 - 09:20 AM

It's not that you made a mistake in getting the 64 bit edition - it's just that you'll have to wait to reap it's benefits. The marketplace now has to catch up with you. And, IMO, it's inevitable that we will move to 64 bit computing as the norm in the near future. Keep an eye on the technical boards and websites for 64 bit announcements and you'll see that the trend is there!

I've got several friends who use the 64 bit version of XP and Vista and they're satisfied with it.
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Posted 15 November 2006 - 01:53 PM

:thumbsup: Hi "1Up" :

While researching a similar situation for a friend, I came across the following
on the Wilders Security Forums :

http://www.ghostsecurity.com/ghostwall/

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Posted 17 November 2006 - 10:16 PM

On the Microsoft forum Discussions in Home Users Security Discussions

"Outpost v4 firewall is now available and supports x64."

30 day trial at http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/download.php

in microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertz...&sloc=en-us


Also, from Agnitum:
Does Outpost Firewall support 64 bit architechture?
"Yes, since version 4.0 Outpost Firewall supports 64 bit architecture."
http://www.agnitum.com/support/kb/article....165&lang=en

What are you using for an av ap?


Hi and thanks to everyone who has tried to help. Sorry I have not replied earlier but I have not been able to get online because of other problems. Mainly problems that seem to have resulted from the Windows Updates I downloaded onto my usual operating system, XP Home. The XP Pro 64 is installed on a separate partition, but following the installation of the Updates on the XP Home Edition, the XP Pro will no longer boot. No programs have been installed on it yet so I intend to format the partition and reinstall it, then I can try out your suggestions. Thanks a lot in the meantime, and I will let you know what happens later.

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Posted 18 November 2006 - 07:01 PM

Before you do that, Microsoft offers free support for problems arising from updates.

Microsoft Security Product Support Policy

Technical support is available from Microsoft Product Support
Services at 1-866-PC SAFETY (1-866-727-2338).

There is no charge for support calls associated with security updates.

International customers can get support from their local Microsoft
subsidiaries. Phone numbers for international support can be found
at: http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx


I would recommend that before you reinstall.

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 08:50 PM

Before you do that, Microsoft offers free support for problems arising from updates.

Microsoft Security Product Support Policy

Technical support is available from Microsoft Product Support
Services at 1-866-PC SAFETY (1-866-727-2338).

There is no charge for support calls associated with security updates.

International customers can get support from their local Microsoft
subsidiaries. Phone numbers for international support can be found
at: http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx


I would recommend that before you reinstall.


Hi, thanks for the advice, although I have already got the OS running again. For the sake of learning something new, I decided to allow it to over write the OS rather than doing a completely new reinstall. It worked fine leaving everything just as it was before.

Anyway, getting back to my original problem, I downloaded both firewalls, deciding to try the free version first, GhostWall. This installed fine, but as to if it's working or not, I've no idea, it's not asked me to allow or block anything yet.




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