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Riaa File Sharing Lawsuits


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#1 DanC1186

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Posted 08 November 2006 - 02:18 PM

How does the RIAA find out who's sharing files? Do they target certain P2P programs?

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Posted 09 November 2006 - 04:57 PM

I believe I've seen them sue people form all the P2P networks. The only thing I can think of where they haven't been suing users is usenet, and that's probably only a question of time.
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Posted 12 November 2006 - 08:53 PM

Your ip is shown when you log on to file sharing networks. Piracy is bad anyhow.

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Posted 12 November 2006 - 11:05 PM

If you're concerned about your privacy and security while peer-2-peering, use:

PeerGuardian 2
http://methlabs.org

theguy, why do you insist that peer-2-peer is piracy? This is the 2nd post today (coincidence) that I read about peer-2-peer and you have said the same things on each one. Are you an agent or something to that extent? I'm just curious... because you seem to be so bent on telling people peer-2-peering is piracy.

IT IS NOT PIRACY Please do some research on torrent clients, peer-2-peer and the like... then combine all of the information you get,,, and see what you come up with.

If I took every-single FREEWARE/SHAREWARE software on the Internet and provided it as a download,,,,,, but.... but... you must use a torrent client..... am I pirating software? and are those people downloading the software from me downloading pirated software?

Let me answer it for you....... NO... it's not piracy.

You should take a real big look at the piracy issue... because the way you're always posting, everyone is a software pirate. Am I one?... because I do use torrent software.

You give me the impression that you're an agent. And if you are, you should go and target those torrent sites, not this one. This site only helps those that need and want computer help.... and most of the computer help involves one brand of software or another.

But, if you're going to help support the site with your knowledge/ideas, will you be kind enough to stop posting that using peer-2-peer is piracy. Mostly all torrent sites are just directories... they DON'T host torrents on them.

But this can be a long issue, but this isn't the place for it.. but for the sake of it... stop accusing everyone as being a software pirate when they mention the word torrent.

Incase you didn't know this either, the RIAA is ran out a someone's home. It's a front for lawyers to hijack people that download software. They're NOT protecting intellectual rights.... it's a scheme that they know they'll always make money off of.... because they know they'll NEVER be able to stop peer-2-peering.

Many billion dollar companies are now making deals with torrent sites,,, just so they can recoupe some money.. instead of dragging people into court all the time.... and many of the accused are innocent people.

And if you're on a wireless network... it's more than easy to hijack your connection and do what you want, and let the other guy take the fall.

Again... I'm up on the p2p, and I know more about it than I care to share right about now.

Oh.... I meant to tell you that I'm part of a few select security network teams here on the Internet that helps protect peoples' Internet privacy and security. One day I'll tell you the teams I'm part of.

But don't get me wrong either,,, if people post about particular programs or pretty much indicate that they're downloading illegal content, I'll point them to the software owners web site... Let's see if they'll go that way. But I never tell people that torrents and (or) peer-2-peer is piracy.

Hope that shed some light on this subject.

Edited by Walkman, 12 November 2006 - 11:07 PM.


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Posted 13 November 2006 - 02:46 PM

My comment is generated from what Mr Alpha said about people from multiple p2p networks being sued. Why else would they be sued if what they were doing wasnt illegal. I honestly didn't take the time to read your complete post. Mabye you should start taking the time to rethink your comments. Good day.

Edited by theguy, 13 November 2006 - 03:10 PM.


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Posted 13 November 2006 - 03:33 PM

My comment is generated from what Mr Alpha said about people from multiple p2p networks being sued.

That's understandable... but your comments "Piracy is bad anyhow" implies that anyone using a torrent client, or even visiting a torrent site is pirating and (or) downloading pirated content. Am I incorrect of that assumption?

Why else would they be sued if what they were doing wasnt illegal.

Have you ever heard of alleged? It means being accused. The **AA sues a bunch of the wrong people all the time. Actually, I meant to say they sue a bunch of innocent people all the time. Because you're being sued does NOT mean you did the offense you're accused of.

There are people that has no idea what peer-2-peer is, nor how to use the clients and such,, but yet, they're being sued. And on those networks, it's still a shady case for them simply because no torrent site hosts and torrent content. They would have to literally go and target every-single isp in the world, take their logs,, and go from there. Those sites are directories for the content, that's all.

I honestly didn't take the time to your complete post.

It would hurt to do so. Some interesting info in it.

Mabye you should start taking the time to rethink your comments.

I do, and that's why I post what I feel warrants my reply/comment. You're quite welcome to do the same too, but it won't hurt if you stop telling people that piracy is bad. I'm sure they/we all know it.

You mean to tell me that you never used a torrent client before?
Are you telling me that don't even have one or more installed on your computer right now?
Maybe you got in when you heard it was a bad thing to do, and decided not to engage in it. Good for you.

If you're on a wireless network, just hope you never get hijacked and then you have to explain that it wasn't you. I hope you never have to be a victim of the **AA, because if it does happen to you, I'm sure you'll have no regard for them, as you'll see they actually accuse the wrong people on average,,,, most of the time. Read the lawsuits going on. They've lost more cases than they've won. And it will get even worse for them as a judge already ruled that they have to have suspected computers analyzed by independent companies. As long as they stick with that ruling, I'm sure the **AA will loose even more cases.

Good day.

You too.

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Posted 13 November 2006 - 04:36 PM

I dont engage myself in activities that would be considered illegal, as far as i know anyhow, hard to tell with our current government. Anyhow, would help if you didn't take things so personally. I honestly dont care who shares what accross p2p networks, or breaks into cia databases, or gets caught downloading cat porn, or sleeps with their best friends mom. Why you ask? Simple, because their not my responsibilty. Ah, and i am fimilar with certain legit software being offered over torrent networks. Can't say ive used this method to retreive what ive needed though. :thumbsup:

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Posted 13 November 2006 - 05:58 PM

Nothing personal concerning you. It's just that I've had a bad experience with a web forum that had been infiltrated by someone posing as a forum police. He used over 20 different names, and told me that he has a backdoor method of getting into forum boards and blending in. I can tell you a long story about that one... and it involves a very well known site.

I'm just more cautious, and I observe alot, even more since that incident happened. I run 3 forums myself, and I own over 130 domains. I have to constantly remember what I was told, and I have to constantly be vigilent. I've learned from some professionals from a prominent web site, as to tell what some peoples motives are on a forum site,,,, just by their screen names. I kid you not... these people are that good, and they've exposed alot of people that came to their site just to do harm. If you call it stereotyping.... it's needed when your site has contenet concerning security, and people try to break it down.

But,, you're alright with me. You're entitled to say what you want, but I'm sure people get the message. Like I mentioned before,, I can tell by a post where a person is leading to, and if it relates to breaking codes, breaking copy protections or anything on the line of not getting a program to not work... I know right then and there that they don't need to be posting here at all, so I always tell them to go to the softwares/games web site and ask them. Even though I suspect their actions as to having pirated content, I don't bother to mention it to them, because they already know.

Thanks for the replies too. It's all good.

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 06:11 PM

Actually I think that target Gnutella1 and Gnutella2. Up until recently when the Razorback2 servers were raided in Switzerland; now edonkey is targeted.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4743052.stm

Pretty much on torrents and usenet are safe from the money hungry **AA.

Edited by yano, 20 November 2006 - 06:11 PM.





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