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#1 cvbs1

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Posted 01 December 2018 - 08:04 AM

Morning all,

 

  I have an older hp pavillion xp that i had the opportunity to upgrade to windows 10 and it had worked very well to recently.  it has now slowed to a crall.  i want to try to reset it back however the windows license tag on the bottom of the computer has worn considerbly and i can not read all the numbers/letters.  Can i get this information anywhere else?  I do not have the original boxes that this came in as like i said it has been several years and has looooong since been tossed out.

 

tia,

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Edited by hamluis, 01 December 2018 - 09:51 AM.
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Posted 01 December 2018 - 08:18 AM

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Posted 01 December 2018 - 08:29 AM

Do you mean you want to revert the system to XP, or since it has always been happy to run Win 10, do a fresh Windows 10 installation?

 

No information will be required to re-install Windows 10, the activation profile for that machine will be found on the Microsoft activation servers and automatically re-instated.

 

If you want to go back to XP, which doesn't seem a very good idea, normally with an HP this would be re-installed from a service partition on the hard drive, and would be pre-activated.


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Posted 01 December 2018 - 09:38 AM

you can re-install windows XP from an ISO file and then activate it by phone, so you dont need the key on the computer


Edited by mikey11, 01 December 2018 - 09:39 AM.


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Posted 01 December 2018 - 10:13 AM

you can re-install windows XP from an ISO file and then activate it by phone, so you dont need the key on the computer

 

Do you mean to tell me that Microsoft, which ended support for XP ages ago, still has an official "activation by phone" mechanism for it?

 

I find that almost impossible to believe.   If they do, then it's one of the stupidest decisions I've ever seen made.  When support is dropped support should be dropped, period.


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Posted 01 December 2018 - 10:28 AM

 

you can re-install windows XP from an ISO file and then activate it by phone, so you dont need the key on the computer

 

Do you mean to tell me that Microsoft, which ended support for XP ages ago, still has an official "activation by phone" mechanism for it?

 

I find that almost impossible to believe.   If they do, then it's one of the stupidest decisions I've ever seen made.  When support is dropped support should be dropped, period.

 

 

 

never tried with XP but i have done that with vista after it ended support, so i just assumed XP would also work.....but not positive


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Posted 01 December 2018 - 06:17 PM

If they do, then it's one of the stupidest decisions I've ever seen made.  When support is dropped support should be dropped, period.

 

I'd have to totally disagree with that stance. I have 3 x full version (off the shelf) retail copies of Windows XP Pro that I purchase many years ago, at considerable expense at the time. There is nothing in the EULA that prevents me from using it well past its end of support life and I even used one of those copies to install to a Virtual Machine about a year or so ago for a variety of purposes. If I had no way of activating it, then I would be quite peeved.

 

If a vendor such as Microsoft chooses to protect their software through a means such as product activation, then they are bound to honour their side of the bargain and continue to provide activation facilities for whatever time period the licensing deal states. Activation is quite different to support.

 

One of the big selling points and the justification of cost when purchasing retail copies of Windows XP back in the day was that it could be installed and activated as many times you wanted, to as many different computers as you wanted, so long as it was only installed to one machine at a time. Nothing in the Licensing Agreement that I'm aware of that says in x number of years, I will no longer be able to activate my legally owned copies of Windows XP Pro.



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Posted 01 December 2018 - 06:22 PM

We'll just have to agree to disagree then.

 

When support is dropped for a product, and I mean any product, support should be dropped.  Software, any software, has a finite shelf life, and Windows OS versions in particular.  You cannot expect Microsoft to maintain an activation method for XP "in perpetuity" nor would any reasonable person expect that.  End of life means end of life, at least from a "you've got official support" perspective.

 

To each his own.


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Posted 01 December 2018 - 08:37 PM

FWIW:  I did a clean install of XP, with SP3 included, a week ago...just as an experiment (I do such often enough).  I had no problem activating via network connection on boot.  I made no attempt to install any critical updates, although I believe some were installed after I had updated IE to IE 8.

 

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Posted 01 December 2018 - 10:02 PM

I had no problem activating via network connection on boot.

 

Likewise Louis. Activation was as easy as always from my recollections.

 

 I made no attempt to install any critical updates, although I believe some were installed after I had updated IE to IE 8.

 

I've kept a copy of all updates issued for XP and have them archived offline, right up until Microsoft stopped support so if you ever need them, let me know and I'll make them available online for you.

 

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Edited by achzone, 01 December 2018 - 10:03 PM.


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Posted 02 December 2018 - 09:24 AM

XP Security Updates are still available via Microsoft Update Catalog. Are Updates still available on a clean install via Windows Update?

 

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=xp+security+update



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Posted 02 December 2018 - 11:37 AM

 

I had no problem activating via network connection on boot.

 

Likewise Louis. Activation was as easy as always from my recollections.

 

 I made no attempt to install any critical updates, although I believe some were installed after I had updated IE to IE 8.

 

I've kept a copy of all updates issued for XP and have them archived offline, right up until Microsoft stopped support so if you ever need them, let me know and I'll make them available online for you.

 

Regards, Andrew

 

From your archive, is it possible to make these XP updates available to me?


Edited by -Emily, 02 December 2018 - 11:55 AM.


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Posted 02 December 2018 - 07:28 PM

Hi Emily,

 

From your archive, is it possible to make these XP updates available to me?

 

Sure, but I hesitate to post them on my website for general public download because I suspect Microsoft may not be terribly impressed if I did that and I don't like to poke a sleeping bear if I can avoid it <g> I might be able to make them available to you via a temporary shared dropbox folder if you like, but I'd suggest you PM me to arrange that. Note that I'll have to go digging through my backups though so unless you have a genuine need for them (as opposed to just wanting a copy) I'd rather not go to the trouble :)

 

Also, are you installing Windows XP 32-bit or 64-bit? The KB updates differ depending on those factors.



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Posted 02 December 2018 - 07:34 PM

Emily,

 

Further to my last, you might find the following article I wrote back in June of 2017 to be useful. All links I posted in my article appear to still be valid and may be an easier way to grab what you need, directly from Microsoft rather than from me.

 

Security updates for Microsoft End of Life operating systems

 

Have fun :)

 

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 12:02 PM

Hello Andrew

 

Thank you for your messages. I want to reinstall my XP Pro 32 bit. Thought it would be a good idea to have all the updates ready from your archive before doing that. I understand your concerns.

 

Regards


Edited by -Emily, 03 December 2018 - 12:06 PM.





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