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Windows 98 will not boot with two hard drives


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#1 Sylveon Fetish

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Posted 02 November 2018 - 10:33 AM

I replaced my slave 10 GB hard drive with a 40 GB hard drive and no matter how I set the jumper settings, Windows 98 always gets stuck at

 

"Searching for Boot Record from IDE-0...OK"

 

The "OK" tells me that the computer sees the boot record, but it does not do anything beyond that message. There is just a blinking cursor.

 

The old 10 GB hard drive had no jumper settings on it whatsoever. I tried that with the 40GB hard drive but it gets stuck at that message. I tried setting the jumper on "slave" but it still gets stuck at that message. Finally, I tried setting the jumper on "cable select" and yet again, it is stuck at that searching for boot record message. I am at a loss. I cannot set it to master because that hard drive does not have the OS installed on it.

 

 

Windows 98 booted flawlessly with that 10 GB hard drive as a slave but refuses to boot with this 40 GB hard drive as a slave. The hard drive with the OS installed is also 40 GB.

 

Can anybody help me out here?



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Posted 02 November 2018 - 10:59 AM

What brand are the respective drives? Some brands have to use Master with Slave & Slave settings, not just Master & Slave. Some brands just don't like to work together...

 

Cable select will only work if you have a "cable select" cable (and then which is Master and which is Slave depends on whether you are using a 40 wire or 80 wire cable).


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Posted 02 November 2018 - 11:03 AM

The master drive (The one with the OS) is a Maxtor and the slave I am trying to use is a Western Digital.



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Posted 02 November 2018 - 11:27 AM

What was the original slave that worked OK with no jumpers set?


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Posted 02 November 2018 - 11:29 AM

Hi,

 

Is the BIOS detecting both HDD's correctly in terms of size and name?

 

What is the contents of the new slave drive?


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Posted 02 November 2018 - 11:37 AM

I enabled it in the bios and then I was able to get into Windows. After that, I opened CMD and typed FDisk and created a logical DOS partition but now I am having another problem.

 

The drive shows up as drive D, but every time I double click it, it always says "D: is not accessible. A device attached to the system is not functioning"

 

When I view the properties for the drive, it says the capacity is 0 bytes and has 0 bytes free.

 

Now what is the problem?



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Posted 02 November 2018 - 11:42 AM

If I remember correctly after FDISK you need to format the drive.


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Posted 02 November 2018 - 11:46 AM

You do indeed need to format D:
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Posted 02 November 2018 - 11:53 AM

I formatted the drive and I could get into it, but now after restarting the computer, the drive is no longer there in My Computer! The CD rom drive has also reclaimed the D drive.

 

 

Edit: When I go into the system. The drive is still listed there except now with no drive letter and no partition. It is as if the partition deleted itself after restarting my computer. Also going into fdisk, it is as if I never did anything at all. There is no partition, no drive letter, no nothing.

 

Also when I try to create a new partition I get an error message that says "Extended DOS partition already exists" But nothing could be further from the truth

 

Now what?


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Posted 02 November 2018 - 12:13 PM

Which was the D: drive previously?

I assume the CD ROM is an ATAPI drive on the secondary IDE port?
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Posted 03 November 2018 - 08:27 PM

I'm embarrassed to admit that I have forgotten tons about Win98 it's been so many years...but...Win98 is DOS based and isn't there some kind of 2gig ceiling that DOS can only see, nothing larger? I can't remember exactly....


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Posted 03 November 2018 - 11:00 PM

The FAT16 file system has a volume capacity limit of 2GB, using standard cluster allocation. The initial release of Windows 95 still used FAT16, so had this limitation until Service Release 2 introduced FAT32. Windows 98 started out utilizing FAT32.


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Posted 04 November 2018 - 08:13 AM

Yeah, that's it!  Since the OP's HDD is 40gig, is he using FAT32, or accidentally using FAT16 when he formatted?  Another suggestion: try running Seatools for DOS from the optical drive to test that drive for integrity.


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