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#1 synergy513

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Posted 19 August 2018 - 05:37 PM

        Vista Users may still want their OS to connect and browse. Vista Users in the know converge and unite. I still have a Vista unit in service here at home and it is mainly used because of an active e-mail account...and I haven't taken the time to transfer the e-mail over to linux mint + thunderbird.

 

 I do have Palemoon 27 loaded on it and Firefox 52 i think. with the obligatory NoScript and Ublock. I did notice that the newer versions of Palemoon are canceling Noscript from their add-on provisions. Actually, i think new versions of PaleMoon don't link over to firefox add-ons anymore.


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Posted 23 August 2018 - 03:09 PM

Yes, NoScript is blocked in "newer" versions of Pale Moon 27 (based on Firefox 38): https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=17619. I assume you know that Firefox 52 (and forks thereof) would require NoScript Classic 5.1.8.6, and that Pale Moon 28 does not support Vista.



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Posted 23 August 2018 - 06:25 PM

Excellent tip!  These browser forks can get befuddling.  A simple goofle search returns some results with new forks getting released repetitively. I would deduce that the key to it all is look for the releases with the endurance.

 

https://www.vistax64.com/threads/basilisk-and-new-moon-ports-best-options-for-vista.305192/


Edited by synergy513, 23 August 2018 - 06:34 PM.

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 10:29 PM

Pale Moon now has stopped support for use in Windows Vista, as of P.M. version 28.  Anyone wanting to use Pale Moon in Vista should stay with version 27.9.4.



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Posted 12 September 2018 - 02:10 PM

...Firefox 52 (and forks thereof) would require NoScript Classic 5.1.8.6...

Make that NoScript Classic 5.1.8.7 (probably the final version): https://noscript.net/getit



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Posted 13 September 2018 - 09:27 AM

Hi, 5.1.8.7. is disabled in Vista even after setting on false, as Maone suggested.
Have I do downgrade to 5.1.8.6? thanks.
The choice is either Remove or Remove. And the small icon of Noscript in Firefox 52 esr disappeared hmmmm Where can I re-find 5.1.8.6? thanks.
==>> EDIT: oooops sorry ooops: leaving on False will resolve the problem, I guess 5.1.8.7 is working well now on FF52 esr and the small icon reappeared!

Edited by descantes, 13 September 2018 - 09:49 AM.


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 04:40 PM

 

...Firefox 52 (and forks thereof) would require NoScript Classic 5.1.8.6...

Make that NoScript Classic 5.1.8.7 (probably the final version): https://noscript.net/getit

 

Instead make that 5.1.9 at the same link - a rather surprising continuation of support for a version that only works on unsupported browsers.

 

The latest web extensions for Firefox Quantum will not work with Firefox 52 ESR or any of its forks, with the possible exception of the Basilisk browser (but only developer roytam1's builds of Basilisk will work on XP and Vista). In the case of NoScript, that might not be such a bad thing (see https://www.ghacks.net/2017/12/01/noscripts-rating-drops-after-firefox-quantum-release/).



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 11:06 PM

I noticed some attention in this thread or topic is given to Pale Moon and Firefox, for whichever versions will still work in Windows Vista.

 

Another alternative browser choice, although i am not certain how safe and secure, is Yandex.  I have only very recently been starting to try it on Vista.



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Posted 17 October 2018 - 06:29 PM

Yandex is a Chromium-based browser that is very popular in Russia. I believe the last version to support Vista and XP was 17.4.1.1026. Getting back to browser fortification, an interesting question is what legacy version of uBlock Origin you would have to use with outdated Chromish browsers on Vista and XP. There has recently been some discussion at MSFN: https://msfn.org/board/topic/177860-ublock-origin-chromium-54-and-firefox-529-esr/



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Posted Today, 01:57 PM

For Firefox 52 ESR and its forks, this should be the correct version of uBlock Origin: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/releases/tag/firefox-legacy-1.16.4.5



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Posted Today, 04:50 PM

....The latest web extensions for Firefox Quantum will not work with Firefox 52 ESR or any of its forks...

For Firefox 52 ESR and its forks, this should be the correct version of uBlock Origin: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/releases/tag/firefox-legacy-1.16.4.5

 

Hi Abzyx:

 

I've never used a Chromium browser on my Vista SP2 machine, but I use the latest WebExtensions version of Adblock Plus as my ad blocker in FF ESR v52.9.0, and according to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/ the latest WebExtensions version of uBlock Origin v1.17.2 (released 18-Oct-2018) should also work with Firefox ESR v52.9.0.  From the version history at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/versions/:

 

Attached File  uBlock Origin Version History 19 Oct 2018.png   18.73KB   0 downloads

 

Old legacy add-ons have not been compatible with the "regular" desktop Firefox since FF v57 (released in Nov 2017 - see the ghacks.net article Firefox 57 Release Overview) but my Firefox ESR v52.9.0 will support both old legacy (XUL/XPCOM) add-ons as well as newer WebExtensions add-ons.  The only caveat is that if any old-style legacy add-on is enabled then this will automatically disable the Electrolysis (e10s) multiprocess feature in my FF ESR v52.9.0 browser.  For example, if I enable my old-style legacy Mozilla Archive Format add-on and go to Help | Troubleshooting | Application Basics, Multiprocess Windows (Electrolysis) is "Disabled by add-ons":

 

Attached File  FF ESR 52_9_0 Multiprocess Disabled MAF Enabled.png   6.8KB   0 downloads

If I disable my legacy Mozilla Archive Format add-on and only use newer WebExtensions like the latest Adblock Plus, Save Page WE and Bitdefender TrafficLight then Multiprocess Windows (Electrolysis) is "Enabled by default".

 

Attached File  FF ESR 52_9_0 Multiprocess Enabled MAF Disabled.png   5.06KB   0 downloads

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32-bit Vista Home Premium SP2 * Norton Security v22.15.1.8 * FF ESR v52.9.0 * Adblock Plus v3.3.1 for Firefox
HP Pavilion dv6835ca, Intel Core2Duo T5550 @ 1.83 GHz, 3 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS


Edited by lmacri, Today, 05:00 PM.





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