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xigncode3, does it kill harddrives?


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 09:00 PM

I am curious, some games that I want to try playing use a program called xigncode3, which is apparently an 'anti-cheat software', among claims I have heard that not only does it collect data such as what files you have open on your computer, highly personal information, etc but it has been claimed also that xigncode3 kills harddrives.

 

I am wondering if anyone is familiar with this and knows more in depth or anything? Is this true? 

 

I am sorry if this is the wrong forum to post this in 



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Posted 14 August 2018 - 05:50 AM

At the primary level, its simply not possible for software to damage hardware in a physical sense.

Its far more likely it will damage other software process's in play, even the OS, which then fails the drives recognition/read/write abilities.

 

In certain cases it can render it inoperable or rather inaccessible, through the OS kernel or other software in use which calls its functions across bus.

 

At worst, its nothing a physical sata/IDE disconnection and reset, or OS clean install wont fix!

But the wrong software can cause the best headaches!

 

Your disc should still spin up, no matter what game your were playing.......Its a gamer's wives tale!

 

It might eat your pets though. :mellow:


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Posted 14 August 2018 - 08:52 AM

At the primary level, its simply not possible for software to damage hardware in a physical sense.

Its far more likely it will damage other software process's in play, even the OS, which then fails the drives recognition/read/write abilities.

 

In certain cases it can render it inoperable or rather inaccessible, through the OS kernel or other software in use which calls its functions across bus.

 

At worst, its nothing a physical sata/IDE disconnection and reset, or OS clean install wont fix!

But the wrong software can cause the best headaches!

 

Your disc should still spin up, no matter what game your were playing.......Its a gamer's wives tale!

 

It might eat your pets though. :mellow:

 

 

Yeah? Okay, please allow me to ask a few more questions more in depth. I imagine the answer is the same, but I would feel much better asking all the same.

 

It was claimed in a thread I was reading that due to the way that xigncode3 functions (in that it is constantly reading your drives in order to detect cheats/script injection) that this is the main source of the drives becoming damaged. One person in the thread actually claimed their SSD outright died while running the game and claims it was xigncode3 behind it.

 

This is not possible, I assume? And their SSD just died randomly as they sometimes tend to? Or could the processes of xigncode3 have lead up to that?



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Posted 14 August 2018 - 09:16 AM

Dude, the whole time your system is turned on, everything is called from your HD by CPU & RAM.

Its hardwares workhorse, and is constantly being read (issued with commands) anyway.

 

Remember, your operating system is on your HD......your screen would be blank if the HD stopped for smoko!

 

I dont see how constant scanning with software would hurt it?

 

He must have spilt some of his cocaine on the platters :thumbup2:

 

Edit: Sorry, you said SSD......all the more reason for reliability!


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Posted 14 August 2018 - 09:41 AM

Dude, the whole time your system is turned on, everything is called from your HD by CPU & RAM.

Its hardwares workhorse, and is constantly being read (issued with commands) anyway.

 

Remember, your operating system is on your HD......your screen would be blank if the HD stopped for smoko!

 

I dont see how constant scanning with software would hurt it?

 

He must have spilt some of his cocaine on the platters :thumbup2:

 

Edit: Sorry, you said SSD......all the more reason for reliability!

 

I am not sure? I assumed it was somewhat like bitcoin mining. What I had heard about that was that it was so CPU and hardware intensive that it tended to kill hardware very quickly? I kind of figured that the xigncode3 would be similar to that.

 

SSD, yeah. My main drive is an SSD - I have two HDD that are installed in addition to that.



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Posted 16 August 2018 - 04:59 AM

Well.....you spoke of simple constant scanning of your HD, are you talking about a more in-depth process? 

 

If its anything like you suggest, then its Malicious Software.......ie Malware!

 

It will render it useless upon your current install, but it wont kill it as a format is always available.

 

If your in any doubt, stay clear off it and you will be OK.  :)


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Posted 16 August 2018 - 08:56 AM

Well.....you spoke of simple constant scanning of your HD, are you talking about a more in-depth process? 

 

If its anything like you suggest, then its Malicious Software.......ie Malware!

 

It will render it useless upon your current install, but it wont kill it as a format is always available.

 

If your in any doubt, stay clear off it and you will be OK.  :)

 

Well it is an official game run by an actual company so I may go ahead and give it a try, watch the CPU and memory usage, and if they show too high, I will probably pull out and delete the game. I suppose that would be safe, too.



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Posted 16 August 2018 - 10:27 AM

So is Facebook  :crazy:

 

Even if we said, "Yes, it will burn your hard-drive and send it to hell", you would play on anyway, so im stumped as to why you posted the question in the first place?

 

What did you want to hear?


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Posted 16 August 2018 - 12:49 PM

So is Facebook  :crazy:

 

Even if we said, "Yes, it will burn your hard-drive and send it to hell", you would play on anyway, so im stumped as to why you posted the question in the first place?

 

What did you want to hear?

 

That.. seems rude?

 

No? I mean you are absolutely 100% wrong - you just literally told me there was essentially nothing to worry about. Read back on the whole forum post. You literally told me there is very little chance if not outright none of this program actually doing harm to any of my computer. If you had said otherwise? I would have avoided the game altogether.

 

Frankly at a risk of being blunt I would suggest you cut the elitist attitude and step back. I appreciate your help, but I do not appreciate this sudden disrespect and shoving words in my mouth you are doing.



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Posted 17 August 2018 - 05:53 AM

Yes you were blunt.....Im hurt now and may not sleep tonight!


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Posted 17 August 2018 - 01:41 PM

Hi,

Please, let's keep on topic and try to help the OP. Thanks.


I doubt that this program can physically damage your hard drive. I do not know much about the program, and I am not sure whether it can damage the files used by your OS or your personal files, but I can say that it is very difficult to actually physically damage your hard drive using software.

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 03:05 PM

Hi,

Please, let's keep on topic and try to help the OP. Thanks.


I doubt that this program can physically damage your hard drive. I do not know much about the program, and I am not sure whether it can damage the files used by your OS or your personal files, but I can say that it is very difficult to actually physically damage your hard drive using software.

 

 

Thank you. 

 

One of the things that made me nervous was this thread; 

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeraPC/comments/8ot680/psa_upcoming_tera_na_patch_files_not_yet_deployed/

 

one user claims "It's supposed to compare the things you have running right now versus a blacklist of programs (cheats, hacks, whatever you want to call them,) and prevent you from logging in until they are shut down. However, it apparently runs when the game is not running, and scans everything on your drives, which is terrible for the life of an SSD and generally hinders overall performance greatly."

 

among other claims in the threads of it killing drives and etc 



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Posted 19 August 2018 - 08:34 AM

I had to read that link that you provided and from my knowledge regarding hard drives and SSDs, that claim is totally ridiculous. It is just some silly internet talk that has no basis in reality. Many scientific tests are performed by all of the leading manufacturers of storage and to try to claim that a constant reading of data is detrimental to a storage unit's health is without scientific basis.

 

Now read write cycles, that would be a totally different story. But they do not claim that there is a constant writing of data, so fa"getabout it.


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Posted 19 August 2018 - 09:00 AM

I had to read that link that you provided and from my knowledge regarding hard drives and SSDs, that claim is totally ridiculous. It is just some silly internet talk that has no basis in reality. Many scientific tests are performed by all of the leading manufacturers of storage and to try to claim that a constant reading of data is detrimental to a storage unit's health is without scientific basis.

 

Now read write cycles, that would be a totally different story. But they do not claim that there is a constant writing of data, so fa"getabout it.

 

Whew. Okay.. thank you, that is a huge relief.

 

I am so nervous because I just had a computer die on me and I was out of pocket over 1,600€ that I really did not have to get a new one and replace it because I use my computer for everything from work, to drawing, to playing games with my friends, etc so it is kind of integral to my life currently and I was like.. yeah.. reading that stuff just made me super nervous that I could be risking my drives to play a dumb game of all things. But seeing as the consensus and knowledge seems to say that my drives will be safe from any of this alleged damage, that is a huge relief and I can feel safe playing the game.

 

Because honestly I really do not know and I am not going to try and seem smart and to understand something when I just do not have the background to understand it. But I appreciate for the majority, this forums willingness to help me out. It is really a nice thing. :)






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