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Network & Sharing doesn't recognize my network is private


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#1 KCav

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Posted 23 July 2018 - 05:01 PM

I have a Home network setup on my Xfinity gateway router.  There are and two computers running Windows 7 Pro connected to the Home network and they shared files and access to the network printer. I would like to add two notebooks running Win 10 Pro to the Home network, when I go to Network and Sharing Center it says my network is a Public network.  How come?  What causes Networking and Sharing under Windows 7 think one way and under Windows 10 another.

 

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Posted 23 July 2018 - 05:31 PM

I have no idea of what you did when you configured networking in either Windows 7 or Windows 10 so have no conjecture as to why your Win7 machines are configured to recognize your network as private (or, more likely, Home or Work under the terminology used under Windows 7) while Windows 10 recognizes them as public.

 

I can tell you how to change it in Windows 10.  Presuming you're connected to the network in question, open Settings, Network & Internet, Status pane, Change connection properties link.  Change the radio button under network profile from public to private, 


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Posted 24 July 2018 - 04:46 AM

Thank you for telling me how to change the network setting from Public to Private .  What changes to I need to make so when I click on Network in Windows Explorer my Windows 10  notebooks appear along with the Windows 7  on my Home network?



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Posted 24 July 2018 - 07:30 AM

Where in Windows 10 can I findout what version of Windows I am running, in Windows 7 it could be found under Administrative Tools/System information?



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Posted 24 July 2018 - 07:59 AM

In Windows 10, to get info about your current build;

 

type Win + R. Open up the run command with the Win + R key combo.

Launch winver. Simply type in winver into the run command text box and hit OK.

 

Here's a guide to help you network all your pc's

https://www.online-tech-tips.com/windows-7/network-and-sharing-center-overview/

 


Edited by Joe C, 24 July 2018 - 08:16 AM.


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Posted 24 July 2018 - 11:39 AM

If all machines, whether Windows 7 or Windows 10, are connected to a given LAN with each recognizing it as "private/work/home" then all should be visible to each other.  You sometimes have to restart the machines for this to take effect.

 

Don't use Homegroup.  It's been removed from Windows 10.


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Posted 24 July 2018 - 12:12 PM

Where in Windows 10 can I findout what version of Windows I am running, in Windows 7 it could be found under Administrative Tools/System information?

 

In Run type in Winver & press Enter or click OK.---

 

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Windows Key + R to get Run.

 

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Posted 24 July 2018 - 12:41 PM

One need not even bother with WinKey+R to run the Windows Version (winver) command.

 

If you hit the Windows Key and immediately type winver it shows up first in the search results and all you need to do is hit Enter.


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Posted 24 July 2018 - 12:52 PM

One need not even bother with WinKey+R to run the Windows Version (winver) command.

 

If you hit the Windows Key and immediately type winver it shows up first in the search results and all you need to do is hit Enter.

 

I use Classic Shell.

Pressing Windows Key I get this---

 

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I type in winver & get this---

 

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There are different ways to get winver info.

Each to their own.


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Posted 24 July 2018 - 12:52 PM

By the way, and I meant to mention it last night, when you're adding a new network under Windows 10 you will be prompted as to whether you want your PC to be discoverable on the network, which means it would be joining a private network.  If you want the network to be considered private hit the Yes button, otherwise to designate it public hit No.

 

Even the final statement in that prompt dialog pretty clearly gives the analogy that home and work networks (which was the old Win7 and earlier terminology) are private while others are public.  One can join one's own home/work network by choosing the No button but then your machine is isolated from view by the others (and vice versa, so using a wireless printer won't work in that configuration, either).

 

wifi_new_network_prompt.jpg 


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Posted 24 July 2018 - 12:56 PM

Each to their own.

 

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Indeed.  What follows is not a criticism, just a statement about my general practice.

 

I never assume that any user of any OS is using something like Classic Shell, which has as its express purpose trying to create an artificial environment akin to another OS, when I answer questions.

 

If someone has elected to do this, and that's just fine if they were, then it's incumbent upon them to make mention of it, as that can change the game considerably.

 

I simply presume that a Windows 10 user is going to be using the Windows 10 UI unless explicitly told otherwise.


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Posted 24 July 2018 - 01:14 PM

 

Each to their own.

 

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Indeed.  What follows is not a criticism, just a statement about my general practice.

 

I never assume that any user of any OS is using something like Classic Shell, which has as its express purpose trying to create an artificial environment akin to another OS, when I answer questions.

 

If someone has elected to do this, and that's just fine if they were, then it's incumbent upon them to make mention of it, as that can change the game considerably.

 

I simply presume that a Windows 10 user is going to be using the Windows 10 UI unless explicitly told otherwise.

 

 

I just mentioned Classic Shell in case someone was using it.

I have found that a lot of users don't mention what things they are using.

Hence the reference to Windows Key + R to get the Run box.


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Posted 24 July 2018 - 01:20 PM

One can use Task Manager too---

 

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Posted 24 July 2018 - 03:39 PM

Indeed. Microsoft is well known for giving "40 roads to Rome" for virtually any task.

I tend to favor the ones that require the least work (which often means I'll change choice when someone shows me a quicker way I'd known nothing about prior).

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Posted 26 July 2018 - 09:43 AM

Thanks for explaining how to change my my network status from Public to Private and for explaining how to determine what version of Windows 10 I am running. I also appreciate being given directions to "Guide to Network and Sharing Center in Windows 7,8,10."   I still have a problem achieving my goal which is to add PCs  running Windows 10 to my Private network and allow them to share access to storage and a system printer same as the PCs running Windows 7. 

 

Advanced Sharing Settings under Windows 10 does not have the same information as Windows 7.  Pleas see attached screen snippets.  Can someone explain how this situation could arise. 

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Edited by KCav, 26 July 2018 - 09:45 AM.





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