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#1 Winterland

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Posted 30 June 2018 - 11:08 AM

Greets!
 
Have an old HP laptop (dv6) that I've been test driving Linux Mint on (& it runs great) but I've got a friend in need and am thinking about reinstalling the Win 7 Home Premium that came with it and giving it to her.
 
When I first got the laptop I did make the 5 Recovery Discs but can't get past go.
 
After several reboots and making sure the boot order sees both the DVD and the USB ports, Linux Mint just keep popping up.
 
Did some basic google searches and it appears that I might need to erase some parts of Mint that are keeping the .ISO from being seen / loaded.
 
Does anyone know of that is correct?
 
 
I've also looked over the Clean Install directions but again, can't seem to get to the "press any key to boot from CD / DVD" prompt.
 
Anyone try this process before?
 
Thanks,
 
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Posted 30 June 2018 - 11:12 AM

make sure your CD/DVD is first priority in the boot order in BIOS,

 

are you sure the CDs were made correctly and they are bootable CDs?



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Posted 30 June 2018 - 11:16 AM

Ineed ensure that you can boot from disk in BIOS

 

also if you have a friend why not dualboot?


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Posted 30 June 2018 - 11:58 AM

I'll move this topic to the Windows 7 forum since it's primarily a Windows question.

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Posted 30 June 2018 - 12:55 PM

Tap Esc at boot and select Boot Menu. Then select your Optical Drive. I don't know if your HP has that function though.



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Posted 30 June 2018 - 01:02 PM

As John said, Tap ESC quickly as soon as boot is started.  Then you will see Boot Order in the selection as F9.

 

If that don't work Shutdown and try F11 for Recovery, and follow the prompts to get to use your Recovery Media as DVD or Optical Drive.

 

Once you've got Windows 7 Installed, go to Menu > Right Click > Computer > Properties, and check if you have "Service Pack 1" Installed.

 

If you need Service Pack 1

Click Download Scroll to Bottom and choose 32bit or 64bit.

 
windows6.1-KB976932-X64.exe
 
windows6.1-KB976932-X86.exe

 

Then for the Install follow my directions below for a clean Install.  This may not be needed for your OEM Recovery Disks I can't remember, but it won't hurt to try to install them AFTER you've checked if you have Service Pack 1.  


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Posted 30 June 2018 - 01:37 PM

Posted Today, 02:02 PM

1. Install Windows 7 as usual. 

 

2. Set to "Never check for updates (not recommended)"
 
3. Download and install these Updates in this order. 
a. For 32bit look for:
"All supported x86-based versions of Windows 7"
b. For 64bit look for:
"All supported x64-based versions of Windows 7"
 
 
4. Scroll down to this Title: "Method 2: Microsoft Download Center" 
 
5. Under the Title "Update" you will click on the Proper "Download the package now."
 
After these are Installed, Turn On Auto Update or what ever you prefer and "Check For Updates".  This will take quite a while.  You will go through about Three Update Checks before you get them all.

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Posted 01 July 2018 - 01:41 AM

If you "made 5 Recovery Discs but can't get past go" I would ditch the idea of using them since if they were to actually work you would be installing all the HP junk that originally came on your system - why not start fresh.

 

First you need to know what Edition of Windows (Home, Pro, etc.) and architecture (32 or 64-bit) was originally installed on the unit (if you know that tell us).

 

To do that you need to find the COA (Certificate of Authenticity) on the unit which will be on a sticker - perhaps in the battery compartment or maybe you know some other way to tell.

 

Then make a bootable Windows 7 SP1 installation CD/DVD or USB thumb drive that matches the original installation, boot on that and install Windows.

 

Since your original Windows installation would be OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) you will not be downloading any Windows 7 ISOs from Microsoft using OEM Product Keys.

 

Get your Windows 7 ISO here or if you can't find it send me a message as I have all Windows ISOs available on my Google drive:

 

https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/technology-science/microsoft/67-microsoft-windows-and-office-iso-download-tool

 

If you can get the new install on the Internet or from another system visit the HP site and download and install the HP drivers for the new installation/unit.

 

You may have to sneakernet the drivers to the new installation:

 

Sneakernet

 

If you wish to pursue installing from your recovery discs (or even if you don't) you should:

 

Provide the serial number of the HP and if a user/service/product manual is available it might include instructions that tell you how to:

 

Get to a boot menu (if there is such a thing)

Change the boot order in the BIOS so the CD/DVD or USB is the first boot priority

 

Sure beats guessing and trying things.


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Posted 01 July 2018 - 09:56 AM

Hey everyone - thanks for the help, tips and checking in.

 

@ AI1000 thanks for the move, wasn't sure when I posted it.

 

@joseibarra - I'll take you up on your offer and will PM you my email address (which is also a gmail account). I'm not really interested in reinstalling all the HP junk that came with the laptop so a fresh install sounds like the way to go.

 

HP had Windows 7 Home Premium installed. System is a 64 bit.

 

Now I just need to go find a blank DVD. :lol:

 

onward and again, thanks,

 

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Posted 01 July 2018 - 10:09 AM

If you go with joseibarra's advice then definitely use the directions I gave you.  Took me years to refine how I installed Windows 7 and that is the best way other than having a Sysprep image.

 

Using your DVD's will be easier as far as getting drivers, and then you can remove junk from HP, and or disable it from running on Startup.  Some of that HP Junk is worth keeping for some people.  I normally don't use it because I like things to be clean and tidy, and a fast install.  The HP Disks take forever, and may not contain SP1.  If it don't contain SP1 then it will take even longer.

 

 

 

Now I just need to go find a blank DVD. 

Or a USB.


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Posted 01 July 2018 - 12:35 PM

[ UPDATE ]

 

So, I just figured out that I had not changed the boot order.  :wink:

 

I think at this point I am going to start the Recovery Process with the existing discs that I have. I know this means I'll have a bunch of the HP Junk on there but I'll remove what I can and disable the rest like pcpunk suggested.

 

Thanks again to everyone who stopped by & checked in with the tips & suggestions.

 

Y'all continue to make me very grateful for Bleeping Computer and all the cool people.

 

onward,

 

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Posted 01 July 2018 - 01:53 PM

Another Update.

 

So, once the boot order was correctly changed I was in business.

 

There were a total of 5 DVDs that the System Recovery was burned to and the first 4 DVDs were copied to the hard drive with out any problem.

 

However, one I popped disc #5 in there, it kept popping the tray back out. Not sure if it was burned incorrectly or something else...

 

It was burned over 4 years ago...so I think I'll wait for joseibarra to send me that .iso and try that.

 

onward,

 

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Posted 01 July 2018 - 04:48 PM

Okay, so I was using the Recovery Discs to try to reinstall Windows and was able to copy 4 of the 5 discs before it got hung up and could not read Disc 5. So, I just shut it off.

 

 

Next up, joseibarra was kind enough to provide me with the correct .iso for this laptop. I downloaded it, image burned it to my trusty USB but now when I boot up I'm getting the "BOOTMGR is missing, press CTRL + ALT + DELETE to restart" which, of course, just loops me back around...

 

 

I seem to recall back in my dual booting days I used EasyBCD (?) to manage and/or fix boot issues. Anyone use that or any other program to resolve this message?

 

And a big Thank You to @joseibarra for the quick response and link.

 

onward,

 

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Posted 01 July 2018 - 05:51 PM

I've never Burned an Image to USB, usually you need to use one of the US Creators.

 

What OS are you using to do this?

 

If Windows use Rufus

youtube tutorial

 

If Linux use the Linux inbuilt usb creator.

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Posted 01 July 2018 - 06:40 PM

I've never Burned an Image to USB, usually you need to use one of the US Creators.

 

What OS are you using to do this?

 

If Windows use Rufus

youtube tutorial

 

If Linux use the Linux inbuilt usb creator.

Ubuntu Tutorial

 

I'm running Mint 18 Cinnamon (which I love!) and am using the built in USB Image Writer which I've used several times without incident - always works like a charm.

 

Heck, it's how I burned the Mint .iso to install on the laptop that I'm now trying to get back to Win 7.


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