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#1 JayJax

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 05:13 PM

I'd appreciate advice - not planning on spending a lot (budget's tight as usual) I just would use it at home for photos, browsing the net and a few simple programs like word processing and spreadsheets.

 

I don't want a chromebook.     Right now I have a Windows 8.1 Laptop that needs replacing soon.

 

I think this time I want something small like 12 inches or so.  I'm open to suggestions but would also like feedback on these few I've considered (also any info about this new eMMC SSD thing)

 

 

Lenovo N22 11.6-inch High Performance Laptop Notebook (New Premium Edition) (Intel Dual-Core Processor N3060 1.60GHz, 4GB RAM, 64GB eMMC SSD,Windows 10 Pro

 

 

Dell i3168-3272GRY 11.6" HD 2-in-1 Laptop (Intel Pentium, 4GB, 500 GB HDD, Windows 10)

 

 

14.1" Fusion5 Laptop Computer - (Full HD, 4GB RAM, 64GB STORAGE, Intel Quad-Core, USB 3.0, Bluetooth

 

 

 

HP Lightweight Stream Pro 11.6" Notebook (Intel Celeron N3060, 4GB Ram, 64GB SSD, Intel HD Graphics, Windows 10Pro)

 

THANKS VERY MUCH.  :bowdown:

 

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 08:49 PM

Well that depends on your market, are you willing to go refurbished?

Lower end laptops tend to be a bit of a mixed bag these days some good some bad.

Emmc SDD's are just solid state drives, low capacity but high speeds compared to traditional drives. Usually such drives can be found in smartphones and the like.


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Posted 11 June 2018 - 10:24 PM

I'm really not into refurbished.  I guess it could be a good deal but it could also be a disaster/rip-off so I've never "gone" there.

 

I just want something preferably below $300 and hopefully reliable.   It doesn't need to be super-speedy but of course, within limits not wanting anything toooo slow..

 

What are the pro's and con's of the EMMC SSD's as opposed to traditional driver.

 

Since I'm choosing smaller for portability, long battery life would be a big plus.

 

I guess right now based on what you've said about the EMMC issues, I'm thinking the Lenovo N22 because it seems to have the highest percentage of good reviews being overall positive.  What would you choose of the above?   Obviously there are better computers but I can't expect superfast / capacity for the same price as the lower end.


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Posted 11 June 2018 - 10:38 PM

Well for below $300 then refurbished is the only real way to go, as the majority of sub $300 laptops are either Chromebooks or junk.

There is no shame in refurbished especially on a budget, as long as its certified refurbished you should be fine.

As for the pros and cons of EMMC SSD's well:

 

Pros: faster than standard hard drives

Cons: far less space and are soldered in.

 

Its modern laptops reliance on EMMC SSD is why i am not big on modern budget laptops, they offer so little space and on a windows device this is rather crap.

A lot of modern budget laptops have many other prat falls such has having no real way to up your space or RAM plus some dont even have removable batteries.

This is why I will be going refurbished for my next laptop, its not worth the limitations modern budget laptops have.

 

These days if you want a good laptop you have to pay over $400 for one


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 02:16 PM

Well for below $300 then refurbished is the only real way to go, as the majority of sub $300 laptops are either Chromebooks or junk.

There is no shame in refurbished especially on a budget, as long as its certified refurbished you should be fine.

As for the pros and cons of EMMC SSD's well:

 

Pros: faster than standard hard drives

Cons: far less space and are soldered in.

 

Its modern laptops reliance on EMMC SSD is why i am not big on modern budget laptops, they offer so little space and on a windows device this is rather crap.

A lot of modern budget laptops have many other prat falls such has having no real way to up your space or RAM plus some dont even have removable batteries.

This is why I will be going refurbished for my next laptop, its not worth the limitations modern budget laptops have.

 

These days if you want a good laptop you have to pay over $400 for one

 

How do you determine if something is CERTIFIED REFURBISHED?



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Posted 15 June 2018 - 10:58 AM

Usually it will just say so, if you go to amazon or microcenter or Wal-mart as well.

Big sellers like amazon will exchange you if you dont get something that works.


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Posted 15 June 2018 - 03:50 PM

Usually it will just say so, if you go to amazon or microcenter or Wal-mart as well.

Big sellers like amazon will exchange you if you dont get something that works.

Thanks I appreciate the information.



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Posted 15 June 2018 - 03:55 PM

Just try to steer clear of Ebay, i mean yeah ebay is better than it was but you are better off with a company that takes returns and can reimburse you.

In your case i think maybe Amazon is your best bet, that or newegg.

Newegg usually sells more direct but has the cons of shipping fees and taxes, Amazon has free shipping if you have prime but you have to look into the supplier a bit more.


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Posted 17 June 2018 - 12:14 AM

Luck time is fast approaching.  August and September is retail time for back-to-school bargain purchases.  Check the office supply stores and the computer/electronics stores.  I bought a 15 inch Windows 10 laptop two years ago for UNDER $300.  It was listed on-sale for about $450, but there was then given an unexpected immediate rebate.


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Posted 19 June 2018 - 10:18 PM

Just try to steer clear of Ebay, i mean yeah ebay is better than it was but you are better off with a company that takes returns and can reimburse you.

In your case i think maybe Amazon is your best bet, that or newegg.

Newegg usually sells more direct but has the cons of shipping fees and taxes, Amazon has free shipping if you have prime but you have to look into the supplier a bit more.

I despise Ebay so no problem there thanks.



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Posted 19 June 2018 - 10:20 PM

Luck time is fast approaching.  August and September is retail time for back-to-school bargain purchases.  Check the office supply stores and the computer/electronics stores.  I bought a 15 inch Windows 10 laptop two years ago for UNDER $300.  It was listed on-sale for about $450, but there was then given an unexpected immediate rebate.

Yes I thought about that.   We also have "no-tax" days before school starts if I can make it till then.   Thx for suggestion.



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Posted 20 June 2018 - 06:40 AM

Indeed, the August/September era is also my goal to get my laptop.

Got great deals on both new and refurbs.


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Posted 20 June 2018 - 08:41 AM

 

 

 

How do you determine if something is CERTIFIED REFURBISHED?

 

 

I prefer the terminology (and it's commonly used) "Manufacturer Refurbished."

 

When you see that used it means that the maker of said device is the one that did the refurbishing.  Very often that amounts to fixing something very trivial that somehow made it through QA or that was damage that occurred during shipping.

 

You should be able to easily source a very good laptop in almost any configuration you desire as far as HDD or SSD goes for $300 or under in the manufacturer refurbished market.

 

Also, given your description of what you intend to use it for, I would strongly urge you to consider a somewhat larger screen unless ultra-portability is near the very top of your list of absolute musts.


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Posted 20 June 2018 - 11:53 AM

 

 

 

 

How do you determine if something is CERTIFIED REFURBISHED?

 

I prefer the terminology (and it's commonly used) "Manufacturer Refurbished."

 

When you see that used it means that the maker of said device is the one that did the refurbishing.  Very often that amounts to fixing something very trivial that somehow made it through QA or that was damage that occurred during shipping.

 

You should be able to easily source a very good laptop in almost any configuration you desire as far as HDD or SSD goes for $300 or under in the manufacturer refurbished market.

 

Also, given your description of what you intend to use it for, I would strongly urge you to consider a somewhat larger screen unless ultra-portability is near the very top of your list of absolute musts.

 

 

An important distinction, thanks for pointing it out "Manufacturer Refurbished".

 

PORTABILITY is sort of high on my list of considerations here even though years ago I would not have considered something so small.  But I've decided that since I have a desktop (an I-Mac) with a large screen available to me, that I really just want something simple that I can use outdoors - something with a longlasting battery that can be taken "wherever" without a lot of hassle.   I appreciate your input and agree that for some of my needs a small laptop would have deficiencies.   Its nice to have a backup computer and "choices".   Right now I think my choice is to hopefully have two well-functioning computers (why does it always seem one or the other is in need of repair or replacing).

 

Life is a learning process - if I had it to do over I would not have invested in a Mac desktop, its inconvenient to switch back and forth.   I'm a master of neither Mac or Windows, it would be better to have one system I knew well.

 

Off the subject, but I was reading your quote about the confusion that seems to exist between personal opinion and fact and I must say I agree and share your frustration with the morons who insist that their ideas are GOSPEL.


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