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#1 davidkernaghan

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 02:52 AM

Hey folks,

Hoping you can help. We have some rather old XP machines (going back to SP1) and I need a good AV that can run offline and can be updated manually. The machines can't be updated to a later OS and they cannot connect to the internet.

does anyone know of anything that can be used? Even something outside the box like installing Ubuntu on a flash drive and running a scan from it?

 

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 03:59 AM

G'day David, and Welcome to BC

 

If these dont/cant connect to the internet, why do they need an AV ?


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 04:17 AM

They have had users plugging in infected USB drives. I would love to disable the USB ports but I've been informed that the users must be allowed to use USB sticks for the transfer of data. Ans as such the machines that we use have become infected somewhere along the way. I've scanned most of the users USb sticks on a 'sheep dip' machine and have found a few infections, so now I need to go through all out XP test machines and find and check them all. :(

 

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 05:11 AM

Hmmm.

 

Maybe 360 TSE, it has got not-that-good real-time protection, but you could always check those usb sticks manually.

 

Panda Dome Free also comes to mind, although it can incur in a little impact on system performance.



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Posted 08 June 2018 - 06:07 AM


avast Free Anti-virus still supports XP and you can manually download the definitions to another computer or usb drive, then transfer them to the offline computer.
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Posted 08 June 2018 - 06:19 AM

Good info there Quietman7. I wasn't aware you could download and transfer AVAST definitions in a standalone manner.

 

AVAST is a good option but I advise to run the "custom" installation to get rid of everything you do not want and keeping AV installation footprint as small as possible.



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Posted 08 June 2018 - 12:00 PM

There are a few other anti-virus software which allow manual downloading but unfortunately, they do not all support XP. As for avast, yes always choose custom install and keep all those unnecessary features from being included during installation.
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Posted 11 June 2018 - 02:19 AM

Thanks for all the help so far guys, I really appreciate it.

I found ClamAV which can run from a USB stick which makes it great for what I need, and while it seems to find viruses better than a lot of other AVs I've tried, it doesn't seem to remove them. Is that a pay for feature or am I just doing it wrong?

 

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Posted 11 June 2018 - 06:00 AM

ClamAV Miscellaneous FAQ

Can ClamAV disinfect files?

No, it can’t. We will add support for disinfecting OLE2 files in one of the next stable releases. There are no plans for disinfecting other types of files. There are many reasons for it: cleaning viruses from files is virtually pointless these days. It is very seldom that there is anything useful left after cleaning, and even if there is, would you trust it?


You can create a quarantine directory to remove any detected malware...see How to Scan for Vulnerabilties with ClamAV
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Posted 11 June 2018 - 11:44 AM

If you have XP Pro update it to SP3 and set up a Software Restriction Policy. It's easy to bork things up if you are not careful.

 

https://4sysops.com/archives/hardening-windows-xp-with-software-restriction-policies/

 

http://mechbgon.com/srp/



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Posted 11 June 2018 - 05:07 PM

I don't  need AV, make frequent backups and XP install takes but a few minutes if it ever came to that. Keep all files on seperate drive, simple really.

 

One solution perhaps is Microsoft Security Essentials, with manual download of 'Definitions' via this Microsoft page.

Might not be as lightweight as avast though. then again I could be wrong. I recall avast getting bloated over time.

 

 

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 02:32 AM

I can't update the SP on the XP machines unfortunately. Some of the software running on the machines is pretty OS specific. But the MSE might be promising. I figured out how to get ClamAV Portable to quarantine detected files and it works really well albeit very slowly, but I've got one machine clean so far.

 

Thank you to everyone for their help and advice. Knowledge has been gained. :)

 

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 05:29 AM

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 01:59 PM

I use XP with Avast antivirus. It works well and doesn't slow down the computer much except when updating.



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Posted 15 July 2018 - 08:59 PM

Kaspersky Free works with XP. 






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