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Arch Linux. How to take it for a test drive on usb ?


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#1 Condobloke

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 06:13 AM

Spoiler

 

Running LM 18.3(cinnamon) at present.

 

 

I have downloaded 64bit Arch Linux already

 

Stuck it on a usb using unetbootin.....screen full of gobbledegook (printed command type language)

 

Could not add to it or change it by typing.....only way to exit was by hard shutdown

 

Point me in the right direction please.


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Posted 13 May 2018 - 11:34 AM

Hiya, Brian.

 

You may not want to go there, mate.... :P

 

Arch Linux is universally known as a Linux 'power-user's' distro (the premise behind Arch is not so different from that of Gentoo or LFS - Linux From Scratch, really). Its normal installation doesn't use the type of installer GUI you're probably used to; it's all command-line, for a start.....and it's more or less taken for granted that you understand Bash, inside out.

 

Plus, as I understand it, its software manager (PacMan, I believe) usually expects you to build/compile your packages from scripts that you download, instead of a nice binary, all-included package that you simply click-on to install.

 

Apparently it's one hell of a system once you have it installed and running.....but you are expected to put a fair amount of effort in to achieve this.

 

AFAIK there is a more 'user-friendly' version about, but I'm not certain quite what it's called, ATM. Perhaps some of the others can point you in the right direction.....

 

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EDIT:- Have a look at Manjaro (I know Madman uses this) or Antergos. You'll find them a whole lot nicer to use.....honest! Both based on Arch, but much easier to work with...

 

 

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 02:21 PM

I've installed Manjaro to VM in the past, and it's pretty straight forward, though a tiny bit more involved than something like say Ubuntu. Not tried Antergos yet, but I've just DLd the iso file, so I'll give that a go, and get back to you once I've had a play.



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Posted 13 May 2018 - 02:42 PM

Update ...... couldn't get Antergos to install on VM.  Loads OK, and the install procedure seems fairly straight forward (I liked the fact that you can choose what "desktop" you want to use), but the installer faulted out after I'd given the final commitment to install.

 

So at this point I'm unable to give any real comment on what it's like to use as an OS.



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Posted 13 May 2018 - 03:34 PM

Yeah arch is not a live distro, its a hard liner command line RTFM distro not meant for new users or ones wanting to test it out.

Now there are distros based on arch that you can use to test out via a VM or live.

I personally suggest Manjaro as its my distribution at this current time.

Manjaro not only offers a rather nice live installer but is very good on most hardware I try it on.

It has three main flavors, KDE, XFCE and gnome shell.

It also has several community versions such as cinnamon, deepin, budgie, lxde, MATE and more.

There is also antergos but I have never been a big fan of antergos.


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Posted 13 May 2018 - 03:41 PM

Plus, as I understand it, its software manager (PacMan, I believe) usually expects you to build/compile your packages from scripts that you download, instead of a nice binary, all-included package that you simply click-on to install.

 

 

Actually there are plenty of binaries in pacman, its AUR that has the dubious issue of some packages needing to be compiled.

and AUR has many command line backends such as yaourt and trizen


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Posted 13 May 2018 - 07:08 PM

Life just wasn't meant to be simple....apparently not this time anyway.

 

Ok Mike and Madman.......semi convinced....I will take manjaro for a spin


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Posted 13 May 2018 - 08:25 PM

Well if coming from mint i will recommend the community cinnamon edition:

 

https://manjaro.org/community-editions/

 

I used the cinnamon edition almost exclusively over the last three or so years, now i use KDE.

Its package manager pamac is really good for getting your feet wet in manjaro, its a fantastic frontend for pacman.

If you need chrome you may wish to consider this:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unofficial_user_repositories#herecura

 

and this:

 

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unofficial_user_repositories

 

otherwise if you want other packages not found in the repo there is the ability to enable aur in pamac.


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 07:16 AM

Sorry missed this

 

Brian try this

USB flash installation media - ArchWiki - Arch Linux

 

Welcome to the slightly " darker " side.



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Posted 14 May 2018 - 07:53 AM

Slightly darker side?

Arch linux isnt just dark, its full on black.

In fact its so black its blacker than black.

Even a black hole shines like the sun in comparison.

Its the kind of black that makes the song "paint it black" sound like a happy go lucky pop song.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 11:05 AM

But here in Arch, we have cookies, ice cream, DEATH, and lots and lots of free food xDDD



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Posted 16 May 2018 - 06:18 AM

 

Plus, as I understand it, its software manager (PacMan, I believe) usually expects you to build/compile your packages from scripts that you download, instead of a nice binary, all-included package that you simply click-on to install.

 

 

Actually there are plenty of binaries in pacman, its AUR that has the dubious issue of some packages needing to be compiled.

and AUR has many command line backends such as yaourt and trizen

 

Ah. Thanks for the 'update', Madman. I stand corrected.

 

Never having tried it personally, I'm only going from anecdotal evidence.....but even at that, I'd heard plenty of 'darkside' tales about Arch. Enough, at any rate, to know that it wasn't ever going to be my 'cup of tea'.

 

 

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