Jump to content


 


Register a free account to unlock additional features at BleepingComputer.com
Welcome to BleepingComputer, a free community where people like yourself come together to discuss and learn how to use their computers. Using the site is easy and fun. As a guest, you can browse and view the various discussions in the forums, but can not create a new topic or reply to an existing one unless you are logged in. Other benefits of registering an account are subscribing to topics and forums, creating a blog, and having no ads shown anywhere on the site.


Click here to Register a free account now! or read our Welcome Guide to learn how to use this site.

Photo

Update Issues with KBKB4093118 (64-bit)


  • Please log in to reply
17 replies to this topic

#1 SergeTroy

SergeTroy

  • Members
  • 4 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Local time:06:11 AM

Posted 19 April 2018 - 12:01 AM

I only really noticed this yesterday.  I was running windows update after I had finished a few scans on the computer (anti-virus, anti-malware, little ccleaner pro "touch-up"), and got an Important Update, KB4093118 which is this months Security Monthly Rollup for Win7.  Here, specifically for the x64-based systems.  I naturally install this and restart, and while on restart it says the update completed successfully.  I ALSO get a windows update message in the notification area saying there are more updates awaiting approval.  I recheck Windows Update, and somehow KB4093118 is still there.  Not being fully in my day yet, I just rinse-repeat, rinse repeat and soon find I've downloaded and supposedly installed this update 3 times on April 17th, each time successfully and without errors.  I am now a little irritated and hide the update (where it remains, hidden).  Looking further this same update was installed on April 10th, again successfully.  But to really top it off, nowhere within Installed Updates do I see this gem.  I see everything else downloaded and installed around that time and earlier, but not KB4093118. 

 

There's been a few blogs and forum threads I've read that seem to suggest just not using Windows Update for April as by their estimation the whole thing is screwed up.  I honestly don't know how to feel.  Nothing *seems* to be wrong with my PC, but it's disconcerting that I've downloaded an update 4 times and nowhere is there an option to uninstall it, confirm whether 'Installed Updates' or 'Update History' is correct, or otherwise figure out the grand answer to my well thought question: "Huh?"

 

Is there anyone on the boards that has any inkling of either what's going on, what I might do to test or root around in the system to "fix" this, or otherwise have any suggestions at all?  I'm leaning towards just leaving it be, but I definitely dislike this kind of thing.

 

On the same day as this occurred, I installed Discord and Skype, as well as the driver for my Sennheiser PC 363D Headset (3D_G4ME_1_Driver_V1_4). 

 

Let me know where further information is needed (or if I need to ship this over to another forum / board).  Thanks much in advance.  :)

 

 Full  System Spe cs

  • OS:     Windows        7      Home     P re mium    64-bit  
  • CPU:  i5-3570K  @ 3.40GHz (3.8 Turb o))
  • CPU    Fan : C OOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/FM2/AM3+
  • MOBO : ASUS Maximus V EXTREME Extended ATX Intel Motherboard
  • RAM : Corsair Dominator Platinum Series — 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 DRAM 1600MHz C9 Memory Kit [CMD16GX3M2A1600C9]
  • PSU : COOLER MASTER RS-A50-SPHA-D3 Silent Pro Hybrid 1050W Intel ATX 12V V2.3 & SSI EPS 12V V2.92
  • GPU   / Video Ca rd: MSI GeForce  GTX 1070 DirectX 12 GTX 1070 GAMING X 8G 8GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support ATX Video Card w/ most current driver
  • Primary Drive (Local Disk (C:)) - SAMSUNG 850 PRO 2.5" 256GB SATA III 3-D Vertical Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
  • Secondary Drive (Games (E)) - SAMSUNG 850 EVO 2.5" 500GB SATA III 3-D Vertical Internal SSD
  • Tertiary Storage in two Volumes (F & G): Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal HDD

      
Peripheral Stuff - (Case, Display, Keyboard & Mouse)
♦  Case: COOLER MASTER COSMOS II RC-1200-KKN1 Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
♦  Monitor: Dell UltraSharp U2410 24-inch Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor with PremierColor
♦  Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum RGB Tunable Gaming Mouse
♦  Keyboard: Corsiar K95 RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard w/ Cherry MX RGB Red switches


Edited by SergeTroy, 19 April 2018 - 12:23 AM.


BC AdBot (Login to Remove)

 


#2 guit30

guit30

  • Members
  • 244 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Abington, Pa.
  • Local time:08:11 AM

Posted 19 April 2018 - 02:23 AM

SergeTroy,

       I am having the same issue as you are with the kb4093118 windows update, I have an older Samsung laptop, Now I see it wants to update again. Did you try checking Microsoft or windows websites?  I am not having any issues with my computer.

    Jim


Eset Nod32 vs 8

Super Anti Spyware

Secunia 2.0


#3 joseibarra

joseibarra

  • Members
  • 1,303 posts
  • ONLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Downstairs
  • Local time:08:11 AM

Posted 19 April 2018 - 03:23 AM

I have heard about this problem in the Microsoft community and it might be related to having installed previously or in the same batch of updates the optional update KB4093113.

 

If you do have KB4093113 installed uninstall it, restart your system then install KB4093118.

 

Anothere "solution" seems to be to just right click and Hide the offensive update that has already been installed and hope that MS straightens it out later.

 

Such are some of the issues when a system is set to download/install updates automatically.


Edited by joseibarra, 19 April 2018 - 07:02 PM.

The mediocre teacher tells. The good teacher explains. The superior teacher demonstrates.


#4 guit30

guit30

  • Members
  • 244 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Abington, Pa.
  • Local time:08:11 AM

Posted 19 April 2018 - 03:46 AM

Joseibarri,

        I'm getting this KB4093118 as an important update.

Jim 


Eset Nod32 vs 8

Super Anti Spyware

Secunia 2.0


#5 joseibarra

joseibarra

  • Members
  • 1,303 posts
  • ONLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Downstairs
  • Local time:08:11 AM

Posted 19 April 2018 - 04:36 AM

KB4093118 is Important - KB4093113 is Optional. 

 

Do you also have KB4093113 installed?  Of you do, uninstall it, restart then install KB4093118.

 

Here is the link to one topic in the MS Community where you can read though the report replies.

 

Be aware that the advice from the Microsoft engaged alleged "expert" that has been marked as the "Answer" is impossible to work even though it has been marked as the "Answer" (this is normal in the MS community).

 

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-update/windows-update-say-i-need-kb4093118-even-after-it/f2a00be9-3328-42a6-aa8a-80d272518457?messageId=26ecead6-202e-4bca-a4c0-aecfd38ad25b


Edited by joseibarra, 19 April 2018 - 07:03 PM.

The mediocre teacher tells. The good teacher explains. The superior teacher demonstrates.


#6 guit30

guit30

  • Members
  • 244 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Abington, Pa.
  • Local time:08:11 AM

Posted 19 April 2018 - 05:15 AM

Thanks, but there does not seem to be any definite answer at that link      Jim


Eset Nod32 vs 8

Super Anti Spyware

Secunia 2.0


#7 Shackleton1874

Shackleton1874

  • Members
  • 1 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Local time:08:11 AM

Posted 19 April 2018 - 12:04 PM

I have had the same issue.

 

I uninstalled KB4093113.

Rebooted.

I then Installed KB4093118.

 

KB4093118 no longer shows up in the list.

 

I had to hide KB4093113 from the Optional list.

 

Thanks for your help everyone.



#8 guit30

guit30

  • Members
  • 244 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Abington, Pa.
  • Local time:08:11 AM

Posted 19 April 2018 - 04:46 PM

I will try that,

Jim


Eset Nod32 vs 8

Super Anti Spyware

Secunia 2.0


#9 themaestro023

themaestro023

  • Members
  • 2 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Local time:02:11 PM

Posted 20 April 2018 - 08:20 AM

KB4093118 is Important - KB4093113 is Optional. 

 

Do you also have KB4093113 installed?  Of you do, uninstall it, restart then install KB4093118.

 

Here is the link to one topic in the MS Community where you can read though the report replies.

 

Be aware that the advice from the Microsoft engaged alleged "expert" that has been marked as the "Answer" is impossible to work even though it has been marked as the "Answer" (this is normal in the MS community).

 

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-update/windows-update-say-i-need-kb4093118-even-after-it/f2a00be9-3328-42a6-aa8a-80d272518457?messageId=26ecead6-202e-4bca-a4c0-aecfd38ad25b

 

I did just that and hid the update as I already had downloaded this update 3 times. I hope Microsoft are aware of this issue and release a fix.



#10 themaestro023

themaestro023

  • Members
  • 2 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Local time:02:11 PM

Posted 20 April 2018 - 08:47 AM

Forget my previous reply. In my case I had to uninstall both then reinstall the important update and hide the optional update. It's all working fine now.



#11 quietman7

quietman7

    Bleepin' Janitor


  • Global Moderator
  • 52,047 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Virginia, USA
  • Local time:08:11 AM

Posted 20 April 2018 - 07:43 PM

The gift that keeps on giving: Win7 Monthly Rollup KB 4093118 installs over and over

The only approach that seems to work is to find the patch in the Windows Update list, right-click on it and choose Hide.

You wont believe why the Win7 Monthly Rollup, KB 4093118, keeps installing itself

If you install the Preview Monthly Rollup, KB 4093113, all previous (lower) rollups get marked in Windows Update as superseded. But the bundled PCIClearStaleCache.exe with this months Monthly Rollup, KB 4093118, does not know or recognize that it has been superseded. It will demand that KB 4093118 gets installed and activated.

...So you will get a loop of KB4093118 re-installations until PCIClearStaleCache.exe realizes it isnt need any more, or you hide KB 4093118. [Realize that] KB 4093113 is not borked or have anything to do with the issue. The problem lies with how Windows Update works with updates metadata.


.
.
Windows Insider MVP 2017-2018
Microsoft MVP Reconnect 2016
Microsoft MVP Consumer Security 2007-2015 kO7xOZh.gif
Member of UNITE, Unified Network of Instructors and Trusted Eliminators

If I have been helpful & you'd like to consider a donation, click 38WxTfO.gif

#12 Hazel1944

Hazel1944

  • Members
  • 1 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Local time:08:11 AM

Posted 21 April 2018 - 02:13 PM

In pursuing this damnable subject I found a comment (I don't know where) about uninstalling KB4093113 if I found it among my updates, which I did.

 

I unstalled KB4093113, rebooted, (about one hour ago) and so far so good, no more KB4093118. Might not work for everyone but it did for me.

 

If 3113 comes back I'll let y'all know.



#13 SergeTroy

SergeTroy
  • Topic Starter

  • Members
  • 4 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Local time:06:11 AM

Posted 22 April 2018 - 02:39 PM

Just wanted to thank everyone for replying to this thread and offering everything they could for answers.  Definitely seems like April was the month to avoid the Windows Updates, but it happens.  I ended up uninstalling KB4093113 and hiding that update, which allowed KB4093118 to be installed.  As stands, I'll continue to keep an eye on this thread and the MS pages myself; with luck it maybe some improvements are made or what not and I can uninstall KB4093118 as well.  I appreciate the information in regards the metadata and windows updates (thanks @ quietman7), but I'm still considering if I want to take the approach just because I'd want to make sure I did a little bookkeping to make sure I didn't forget that particular step.  I probably will, but I'm just taking it slow.  Enjoy the rest of your weekend and watch out those weekdays.  ;)

 

Edit: I'd mark quietman7's post as the answer as it seems to be the most comprehensive, but as I don't see that to be an option, I'm just going to include the 'share' link in my own post here (quoting just seems like a way to grab up screen "real estate," :P)

 

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/675987/update-issues-with-kbkb4093118-64-bit/?p=4485899


Edited by hamluis, 22 April 2018 - 02:49 PM.
Boldened OP comment - Hamluis.


#14 quietman7

quietman7

    Bleepin' Janitor


  • Global Moderator
  • 52,047 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Virginia, USA
  • Local time:08:11 AM

Posted 22 April 2018 - 06:07 PM

You're welcome SergeTroy

 

I am a Windows 7 user myself...for now I have just hidden the update so I will not receive anymore repeated prompts to update. I am sure Microsoft is aware of this issue, although to the best of my knowledge they have not commented about it. Hopefully, the update in May will finally get all this straightened out.


.
.
Windows Insider MVP 2017-2018
Microsoft MVP Reconnect 2016
Microsoft MVP Consumer Security 2007-2015 kO7xOZh.gif
Member of UNITE, Unified Network of Instructors and Trusted Eliminators

If I have been helpful & you'd like to consider a donation, click 38WxTfO.gif

#15 MW Cheshire

MW Cheshire

  • Members
  • 5 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Cheshire, England
  • Local time:02:11 PM

Posted 23 April 2018 - 03:37 PM

I use Windows 7 Professional 32-bit and have had exactly the issues outlined above.

 

As of this evening (23 April) it looks like Microsoft have released further updates to address the issue. I uninstalled KB4093113 and rebooted, to be greeted by a raft of replacement updates which seem to help.






0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users