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Want AMD or Intel cpu that supports Windows 7


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#1 Loonmario

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Posted 24 March 2018 - 02:15 PM

I've had it with Windows 10 and want to go back to Windows 7 for my main computer.  I've been messing with this pc for half a year and it's one problem solved then another pops up.  I have a Ryzen cpu which does not support Windows 10 so I want to sell it off and get something else. 

 

Are there any good AM4 AMD cpus that are Windows 7 compatible?  These are some I found.

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007671%208000%20601295134&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&order=PRICE

 

 

Should I just switch to an Intel setup?  My other computer running Windows 10 seem to work fine.

 

 

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ASrock AB350 Pro motherboard

AMD RYZEN 5 1400 4-Core 3.2 GHz (3.4 GHz Turbo) Socket AM4 65W YD1400BBAEBOX Desktop Processor

G.SKILL FORTIS Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) AMD X370 / B350 / A320 Memory (Desktop Memory) Model F4-2400C15D-16GFT

550 watt Gold Corsair PSU

Gigabyte Radeon 560RX video card

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#2 Joe C

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Posted 24 March 2018 - 02:29 PM

The truth is, Windows 7 does run on Ryzen (AMD4) cpu's.

It's Microshaft that gives you an update to stop you from using Windows 7 with the newer cpu's. Someone has come out with a patch to fix that Microsoft update:

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/248069-unofficial-patch-unblocks-windows-7-8-1-updates-kaby-lake-ryzen



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Posted 24 March 2018 - 02:48 PM

Thanks for replying.  Looks promising but worried Microsoft will "fix" that in the future. 

 

I'm just so frustrated.  I don't want anymore workarounds, I just want my good old Windows 7 back.


Edited by hamluis, 24 March 2018 - 05:43 PM.


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Posted 24 March 2018 - 02:55 PM

Skylake cpu's run Windows 7, but that's an Intel cpu.

The old Phenom chips still work better than the BullDozers (AMD+3) that came out afterwards, but those are not cheap and they are few and far between. Anyway you look at it, you'll need another motherboard, and with memory prices still in orbit you might want to consider getting a skylake cpu and a 100 series (ddr 4) chipset board. That way you can re-use that memory


Edited by Joe C, 24 March 2018 - 03:03 PM.


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Posted 24 March 2018 - 02:59 PM

I was thinking about those Skylake cpu's.  I'm seriously considering that option.  I would only have to change my cpu and motherboard.  More money down the drain.

 

Edit:  Can you help me pick a Skylake please?  Something comparable to Ryzen.

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007671%20601295136%20601295137%20601295141%20601300154%208000&IsNodeId=1&srchInDesc=skylake&page=1&bop=And&order=PRICE


Edited by hamluis, 24 March 2018 - 05:44 PM.


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Posted 24 March 2018 - 03:04 PM

Choices are limited



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Posted 24 March 2018 - 03:22 PM

I think I found a good one that is quad core.

 

Intel Core i5-6500 Skylake Quad-Core 3.2 GHz LGA 1151 65W BX80662I56500

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117563&ignorebbr=1



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Posted 24 March 2018 - 03:23 PM

yup... you'll have no issues using that chip, although the 6600K will allow you to overclock that i5


Edited by Joe C, 24 March 2018 - 03:27 PM.


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Posted 24 March 2018 - 03:23 PM

The truth is, Windows 7 does run on Ryzen (AMD4) cpu's.

It's Microshaft that gives you an update to stop you from using Windows 7 with the newer cpu's. Someone has come out with a patch to fix that Microsoft update:

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/248069-unofficial-patch-unblocks-windows-7-8-1-updates-kaby-lake-ryzen

 

NO. Only single Windows 7 update patch (March or April 2017 or whatever) contained that. After that patch, there is no such restriction on any future patches (at least for 3/2018).

 

So just install Windows 7 on your Ryzen system and use it. Only problem is USB support but that's not big issue https://www.anandtech.com/show/11182/how-to-get-ryzen-working-on-windows-7-x64

 

Either integrate Windows 7 drives into install media (DVD preferred) or use PS/2 keyboard (even just mouse should be enough too).

 

This message was written with Ryzen CPU on Windows 7.

 

Until you have tried Windows 7 with current machine, it's just waste of money to buy anything new.


Edited by Drillingmachine, 24 March 2018 - 03:34 PM.


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Posted 24 March 2018 - 03:34 PM

The OP is concerned that M$ may change that and re-make another update to block Windows 7 on newer Intel and AMD chips



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Posted 24 March 2018 - 03:43 PM

Skylake cpu's run Windows 7, but that's an Intel cpu.

The old Phenom chips still work better than the BullDozers (AMD+3) that came out afterwards, but those are not cheap and they are few and far between. Anyway you look at it, you'll need another motherboard, and with memory prices still in orbit you might want to consider getting a skylake cpu and a 100 series (ddr 4) chipset board. That way you can re-use that memory

My skylake Motherboard Gigabyte Z170X-UD5 will not natively run Windows 7 Pro. This I know for sure after having tried 4 or 5 times to re-install Win 7. There are a few drivers for the UEFI Bios that need to be installed before I can even use the mouse and or keyboard. I gave up and re-installed Windows 10 Pro and shut down a lot of telemetry processes and Cortana and I am pretty happy with Windows 10, now. I think Microsoft is definitely trying to force everyone to run Windows 10 from my perspective. Once I got the drivers installed with Windows 7 and booted up to the desktop, I discovered another problem....Windows 7 did not install a network driver that worked and I had no backups of them, so I am back to Windows 10.



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Posted 24 March 2018 - 03:50 PM

The OP is concerned that M$ may change that and re-make another update to block Windows 7 on newer Intel and AMD chips


Microsoft had 10 chances to do it again. So far, that hasn't happened and it's very doubtful Microsoft ever will do that again.

If that don't happen OP can use Ryzen.

If that happens, then OP can try another system.

Remembering that Windows 7 has only two years support time remaining, I doubt Microsoft will do that trick again.

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Posted 24 March 2018 - 05:18 PM

My skylake Motherboard Gigabyte Z170X-UD5 will not natively run Windows 7 Pro. This I know for sure after having tried 4 or 5 times to re-install Win 7. There are a few drivers for the UEFI Bios that need to be installed before I can even use the mouse and or keyboard. I gave up and re-installed Windows 10 Pro and shut down a lot of telemetry processes and Cortana and I am pretty happy with Windows 10, now. I think Microsoft is definitely trying to force everyone to run Windows 10 from my perspective. Once I got the drivers installed with Windows 7 and booted up to the desktop, I discovered another problem....Windows 7 did not install a network driver that worked and I had no backups of them, so I am back to Windows 10.

 

 

 

Are you serious? Why did you not ask for help?

I am running Windows 7 Pro on my skylake cpu right now.

 

My_W7_skylake.jpg

 

CPUZ1.jpg

 

CPUZ2.jpg

 

and that is with a Samsung 960 M.2 NVMe drive

 

Gigabyte does support your motherboard with Windows 7.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-Z170X-UD5-rev-10#support-dl


Edited by hamluis, 25 March 2018 - 05:53 AM.


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Posted 24 March 2018 - 05:28 PM

@ DrillingMachine, I agree.

I do not think that M$ will do anything to update Windows 7 to block the block that blocks that update to block Windows 7

:hysterical:


Edited by Joe C, 24 March 2018 - 05:28 PM.


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Posted 24 March 2018 - 10:56 PM


"Are you serious? Why did you not ask for help"   

In response to Joe C..   

 

I did ask for help on it, but unfortunately it is just not possible to do it on my PC because of a weird internet problem in that Windows 7 does not have the drivers for the type of internet I have. I am on fixed wireless because I live out in the country, and there is no driver for this "New" type of internet on Windows 7. Windows 10 has no problem with it and installs the correct driver. I basically could probably get it to run on Windows 7, but it is so much trouble and tweaking to make it happen, that I am staying with Windows 10. Once I disabled a load of telemetry and created multiple host file blocks to Microsoft and its other partners, the system is running very smooth. It is definitely faster than Windows 7 in games and is much better for the type of internet I have. Plus...I am of the belief that Windows 7's days are numbered. I like to be protected as much as possible, so Windows 10 is the easy choice. 7 doesn't have "exploit protection" and that is another reason I stay with 10. I followed this videos instructions and for the "normal" user, this might work, but with my internet, it's a lot more difficult. 


Edited by Mason21, 25 March 2018 - 02:06 PM.





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