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HDD Doesn't even show up on BIOS


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#1 zack61w

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 01:22 AM

Hello, 

 

Recently I got a 1TB seagate HDD from my friend, it was working fine until two days ago. It doesn't even get detected on the BIOS, I've checked the sata cable and power cable where it functions well with another HDD. I guess the PCB behind the HDD is worn off and the warranty of it is also voided. Is it repairable? 


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Posted 08 March 2018 - 07:53 AM

if you have a HDD enclosure i would try hooking it up with a USB cable.....if it still isnt recognized its likely toast



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Posted 08 March 2018 - 08:17 AM

Does the HHD spin up?



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Posted 08 March 2018 - 11:29 AM

Does the HHD spin up?

Nope, I sense no vibration from it. That's why I assumed its the PCB 

 

if you have a HDD enclosure i would try hooking it up with a USB cable.....if it still isnt recognized its likely toast

Its an internal desktop HDD, are there enclosures for it? 



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Posted 08 March 2018 - 12:25 PM

 


 

Its an internal desktop HDD, are there enclosures for it? 

 

 

 

 

yes.....you can buy an enclosure for it.....here is a random example......

 

https://www.amazon.ca/Wavlink-Enclosure-External-Adapter-Supports/dp/B073RDCHQ1/ref=sr_1_2_sspa/139-3947148-6778502?ie=UTF8&qid=1520529904&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=hard+drive+enclosure&psc=1&smid=AU7F5I67DFQ5W



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Posted 10 March 2018 - 12:24 PM

Yup, pretty sure the PCB is dead. I heard the PCB can be replaced and I've found the exact PCB for my HDD, do you think swapping the PCB will make the trick? 



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Posted 10 March 2018 - 02:32 PM

Nope!

Every hard disk drive since about 2004 has the gain and bias for that specific set of heads programmed into the firmware on the logic board (PCA).  If you really want the data badly enough, it needs to go to a data recovery lab that can pull the firmware from your board, replace the board, and then program the firmware into the replacement.  It is not a trivial task!


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Posted 10 March 2018 - 05:36 PM

I experienced the same issue on a WD I needed the data from.

I went here and had the PCB swapped out https://outsourcedatarecovery.com/hard-drive-repair/

Iirc cost approx $70 with shipping.


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Posted 11 March 2018 - 06:37 AM

Wow pretty expensive for Data recovery, I thought I could end up doing those PCB repairing all myself. Oh well the data isn't that important guess I'll just chuck the drive. Or else I could practice my experiments on the HDD. What's there to loose.. 



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Posted 11 March 2018 - 07:56 AM

If you are outrageously lucky, a replacement PCA may get your data back; but, the drive will be totally untrustworthy for future use.


Edited by hamluis, 11 March 2018 - 08:08 AM.

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Posted 11 March 2018 - 09:02 AM

If you are outrageously lucky, a replacement PCA may get your data back; but, the drive will be totally untrustworthy for future use.

I also heard the present BIOS chip on my PCB can be de soldered and soldered into the replacement PCB. It cost around 2-4$ for doing it. Still the heads have to be programmed? 



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Posted 11 March 2018 - 09:37 AM

 

I also heard the present BIOS chip on my PCB can be de soldered and soldered into the replacement PCB. It cost around 2-4$ for doing it. Still the heads have to be programmed? 

 

 

If you can successfully desolder the firmware chip and solder it then you are good to go. You need good soldering skills. If the firmware chip get overheated it's toast.

 

In many cases, the ROM or NV-RAM chip is external, and can be physically transferred (soldered) onto a new circuit board. The PCB replacement guide explains how to do this yourself. Sometimes the PCB firmware is located on the controller chip, and without a professional BGA Rework Station, it is impossible to move that chip onto a new PCB. That same controller chip is often the problem in the original PCB. In these cases, a new chip must be reprogrammed with the correct PCB firmware (which Donor Drives can generate) with access to the original failed hard drive.

 

http://www.donordrives.com/pcb-replacement-guide


Edited by hamluis, 12 March 2018 - 07:18 AM.


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Posted 11 March 2018 - 09:46 AM

If you can move the BIOS chip which is model specific, that is where the head specifics are; but, it is model specific so you need to do your homework!


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Posted 11 March 2018 - 12:28 PM

Thank you guys for the valuable information, I'll just do the pcb and BIOS replacement even if it fails I got nothing to loose as the data don't matter. I'll update if it was successful!  :thumbsup2:



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Posted 13 March 2018 - 11:25 AM

while reading this post is why it is  good idea to have a backup hdd hooked up or am i wrong






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