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BSOD Diagnostics - Where/how is the best place to start?


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#1 britechguy

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 11:36 AM

Hello All,

 

        This post isn't about a specific BSOD, but about how one might go about getting some idea of what is actually causing one.  This is an area that is, for the most part, a black box for me.  In the past (and, almost certainly, in the future) I have turned here for help but I would like to know if anyone has suggestions for DIY diagnosis "for the beginner."  I would presume that there are a number of utilities out there, I know I've used BSOD Inspector and Nirsoft's BlueScreenView in the relatively distant past and, I believe the Sysnative BSOD collection application.  All of those were to generate reports for others to analyze.

 

         If there's a good place for those who'd like to start learning about analyzing what's causing a BSOD to do just that, I'd love recommendations.  This is not time constrained for me in any way, so additions to this thread at anyone's leisure will be most appreciated.

 


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Posted 16 February 2018 - 11:53 AM

Hi Brian,

 

I'm pretty much a novice on the topic of BSODs, but I've found the following resources to be useful ...

 

http://www.carrona.org/bsodindx.html
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms681381(v=vs.85).aspx
https://www.briandunning.com/error-codes/?source=Windows
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/archive/windows_update_codes.htm
https://www.sysnative.com/forums/bsod-kernel-dump-analysis-debugging-information/9242-debugging-tutorial-index.html

Hope they help.

 

No doubt others here with more experience will be able to offer you more constructive help.



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Posted 16 February 2018 - 12:07 PM

Thanks Gary.  This is the sort of thing I was hoping for, along with a "what you learn along the way that no one really teaches you at the outset" sort of things.


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Posted 16 February 2018 - 12:41 PM

First, keep in mind that BSOD analysis is very hard and requires tremendous patience. I recommend starting by some introductory videos from Defrag Tools. If I remember correctly, episodes 15-29 comprises their series about kernel debugging.

https://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-15-WinDbg-Bugchecks

In order to get proficient, knowledge of OS internals is an absolute must, so be prepared to read Windows Internals from cover to cover. (The 6th edition covers Windows 7 internals; the 7th edition covers Windows 10, but only the first of the three volumes has been released.) Get a searchable e-book version for easy reference, though the last time I checked a university published both volumes of the 6th edition in a PDF for free!

At the same time, I would also suggest getting familiar x86/x64 assembly and C (which by the way I am a noob at :P); most importantly however, start reading through BSOD posts (old and new) here at BC and other forums like Sysnative in your free time.


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Posted 16 February 2018 - 12:58 PM

Thanks bwv848.   As I suspected, there is not really any "quick and dirty" BSOD diagnostic method.

 

If I ever touch assembly language again it will be too soon!!  The only thing that was worse was LISP.

 

I was a programmer in C for many years, and can still look at C code and understand what's going on if "what's going on" isn't insanely complex.  It's very easy to go "bottom up" to understanding what's happening conceptually to a point, but when the high-level design is, in and of itself, wildly complex, that method doesn't work very well.


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Posted 16 February 2018 - 05:17 PM

Here is a link to a very helpful 9 part video tutorial on analyzing BSODs.



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Posted 16 February 2018 - 05:28 PM

Thanks Henry.


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