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#1 Owenthered

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 07:04 PM

I have a old computer, that I want to put Windows 98 on, and I can't boot any bootable disc. The computer has 256MB of RAM, a 3/2 inch floppy drive, and a IDE hard drive and a IDE optical drive. The computer has no operating system on it. So, can you please help me?


Edited by hamluis, 11 February 2018 - 08:25 PM.
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Posted 11 February 2018 - 07:23 PM

Here is a good place to start being as you have optical drive, make sure you get a full edition with a key.

 

https://www.ebay.com/sch/Software/18793/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=windows+98&_sop=15


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 09:50 PM

Okay, but I first just want the optical drive to boot off of any bootable disc, before I get a bootable windows 98 disc.



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Posted 11 February 2018 - 10:11 PM

Did you set the boot order in the bios?


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 03:47 PM

Yes, but I still does not work.



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Posted 12 February 2018 - 03:55 PM

Could be the drive is dirty, if you cab get your hands on one of those long medical style Q tips you can "slightly" moisten it prop the door open and then clean the little glass eye.

 

Added point being as it is an oldie might be a good idea to carefully disconnect and reconnect all connections!


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 04:32 PM

Here is the error message "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key".



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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:44 PM

Tells me the system is not seeing it, did you clean the drive and redo the connections?


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 09:17 PM

The drive is detected in the bios.



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Posted 12 February 2018 - 09:19 PM

Ok if it is clean it should fire up with a good bootable disk.


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 10:45 PM

Another question, do you see the lights blinking on the drive during an attempted boot?  If not I am wondering if the drive belt (rubber band) is intact.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:46 AM

I am wondering if the drive belt (rubber band) is intact.


The drive belt is for drawer open/close, if it's broken the drawer won't move. If the belt is stretched, it can prevent the drawer from fully closing to engage the drive to the disk, but then the end travel switch will not activate and the drawer will attempt to open again.

Owenthered, as OldPhil has commented, the laser being unable to read a disk is probable cause, did you actually clean the laser lens? The drive being ID'd in the BIOS doesn't have any bearing on the capacity of the laser to read.

If the lens has been well cleaned, and the drive spins and attempts to read from a known good bootable CD, but the system still finds no bootable media, then there's nothing left really except a failed laser, not uncommon in an older drive.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 06:16 AM

What are you currently trying to Boot from ?........Post #7 says it cannot find any bootable device .

 

Maybe just me but i thought to boot Win98 as i did 20yrs ago , you needed a floppy boot disc to boot from and then direct it to the CD to load 98 Setup.exe

 

If you just want to test the CD Drive try a Linux Live CD and see if it Boots from that.

 

And if the Hard Drive shows in the Bios its probably ok. 



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Posted 13 February 2018 - 06:27 AM

IIRC it was normal for 98SE CDs (which is what anyone should be using) to be bootable.

The lack of specific information about just what has been tried is the reason I specified "known good bootable CD" in my comments. Linux Live is a good test.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 08:05 AM

The drawer opens and closes, and the drive light works, but the drive still does not boot off of the disc.






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