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Microsoft is dropping Windows 10 S as a standalone product in favor of S Mode


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#1 JohnC_21

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 09:11 AM

The arrival of Windows 10 S was greeted with a degree of scepticism. The cutdown down version of Windows 10 is only capable of running apps from the Microsoft Store for a focus on security, and is optimized for cheaper computers.

There has always been the option of unlocking Windows 10 Professional but now it has emerged that Microsoft is going to kill off Windows 10 S as a standalone product. That's not to say that the S variant is being killed off entirely however. Microsoft is bringing a new "S Mode" to Windows 10 Home, Enterprise, and Pro.

As reported by Thurrot.com, Microsoft is going to integrate Windows 10 S Mode into all major versions of Windows 10 and the same upgrade path will be available for anyone who finds S Mode too restrictive. It is said that upgrading from Windows 10 Home in S Mode to Windows 10 Home will be free, while the jump from Windows 10 Pro in S Mode to Windows 10 Pro will cost $49.

The change of approach with Windows 10 S was first noticed by Neowin. It notes that the start of the Redstone 4 Bug Bash includes a quest for converting PC from S Mode to fully-fledged Windows 10 machines. The quest makes reference to "Windows 10 S as a mode of Windows 10 Home, Pro, and Enterprise," indicating Microsoft's change of direction. Enterprise in S Mode is nothing new, but Windows 10 Home in S Mode most certainly is.

At the moment it's not clear exactly when these changes are due to go public, but it could well coincide with Microsoft's changes to partner pricing which are believed to come into force sometime between April and May.

 

https://betanews.com/2018/02/04/microsoft-drops-windows-10-s/

So S mode means you can only get apps through the store?

Additional info here.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3252103/windows/microsoft-making-windows-10-s-default-with-new-versions.html

What isn’t clear, however, is whether the new Windows 10 versions — Entry, Value, Core, Core+, and Advanced, according to a report by Thurrott.com—will contain their own discrete feature set as well as their own licensing fees. The report claims that these new versions will begin shipping in April.
 
If the report is correct, though, the additional revamps will mean a significant change for Windows: Windows 10 S, currently a separate operating system on products like the Microsoft Surface Laptop, will be the default OS for all Windows 10 Home and Windows 10 Pro products. Windows 10 S only allows UWP apps to be loaded from the Windows Store, locking out traditional Win32 .EXE files. 

 

 

 



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 11:37 AM

I never understood why S was considered "a separate product" as it was already a mode of Win10 Pro for all practical intents and purposes.  This was much discussed in technology groups for individuals who are blind or visually impaired because most screen readers and other software for accessibility will not run under Windows 10 S.  The free upgrade to Pro for those needing accessibility software was the answer to that issue.

 

I'll believe Windows 10 S will be the default for hardware that would have shipped with Home or Pro when I see it.  Windows 10 S was envisioned for educational settings and things like netbooks.  If it does become the default on hardware that would have previously shipped with Home or Pro Microsoft is going to have to make the escape hatch update to Home/Pro both free.   The embedded base of Windows users, which is huge, have untold millions of .exe programs that they're not giving up and trying to make them do so would make zero business sense and create unnecessary ill will.


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Posted 04 February 2018 - 08:28 PM

Sounds like microsoft is once again on to the horrendously bad idea they had with Windows RT (tablet optimised contemporary of 8 and 8.1). Let us hope that if they roll this out on a wide scale they don't lock the BIOS/UEFI (as they did with RT), and that if they do try to lock the BIOS/UEFI then we must hope someone finds a way to bypass such exploitation of users. This would be an absurd and business killing move for ms, if windows goes to a walled garden why would anyone choose it, the advantage of windows has always been the vast variety of third party exe file programs. As for security offered by S versions of the operating system, I wouldn't be surprised if browser and operating system exploits could still lead to infections, but without the ability to run specialist tools that typically come as standalone exe files I imagine that removing infections could be quite a lot trickier on S versions of the OS.

Edited by rp88, 04 February 2018 - 08:30 PM.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 11:57 AM

I warned folks at my work last year when they were black friday shopping to not buy any computer with Windows 10 S.



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Posted 14 February 2018 - 03:09 PM

t3dus, wise move. What's more warn your friends only to buy equipment on which secure boot can be turned of by the user, hence ensuring they can boot linux some day if they tire of Windows 10.

Edited by rp88, 14 February 2018 - 03:09 PM.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 03:23 PM

I fully expect there to be some sort of offer to upgrade existing Windows S machines to another version of Windows.  If Microsoft intends to drop it in favor of a "mode within other editions" then they'll certainly not want to continue maintaining the standalone edition.


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Posted 16 February 2018 - 01:31 PM

Actually sounds like good news for me. My poor Win10 tablet is crawling, and a stripped down, efficient version of the OS would be welcome. Will there be a downgrade option from Win10 Home to Win10 S?






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