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Prep HP Envy for Linux Mint


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#1 Winterland

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 01:53 PM

Hola!

 

So, my sweet wife decided on a beast of a laptop for the New Year (even though I tried to get her to buy the Dell, she resisted) and settled on a HP Envy laptop.

 

She agreed to test drive Windows 10 but at the end of the day, she's ready to make the leap, having seen me test drive Linux Mint for the past couple of years and love it.

 

Please note I'm not here to complain about Win 10 - I'm not a Windows hater, just a Linux Lover.

 

I'm also not worried about the actual install of Linux Mint (18 / Cinnamon) but rather prepping the laptop to test drive a Live DVD or USB and make sure it will play nice.

 

Quick look at the specs:

 

HP Envy 17-ae1xx

Bios:  F.15-09/08/2017

 

Running Win 10 Home / 64 bit

 

i7-855ou

and a ridiculous amount of DDR4 :lol:

 

 

I've gotten into the BIOS but wasn't sure exactly what needed to be Enabled and/or Disabled to make the testing (and hopefully, full install) go easily.

 

 

And yes, I've got everything backed up (and working/tested back ups of my back ups) and also plan to create a System Image of Win10 in the event that it all goes sideways and I need to simply reinstall.

 

So there you go.

 

Ideas / Suggestions / Comments / Coffee?

 

Thanks + Happy New Year!

 

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 03:27 PM

Look for options to turn off secure boot and or legacy mode on that machine.

 

Check over your BIOS

 

Please note that some laptops will not allow you to disable your secure boot and you will be stuck with windows, if you cannot get linux working do trade it in for that dell as dell + Linux = magic


Edited by MadmanRB, 13 January 2018 - 03:28 PM.

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 04:00 PM

 And why not install in UEFI mode? Its not hard once the install is done you just change the boot order in UEFI



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Posted 13 January 2018 - 04:50 PM

According to NickAU you won't need to disable UEFI to install Linux. But if you do need to in order for the

install DVD or Flash drive to work....then you can follow the directions in the link below.

HP PCs - Secure Boot (Windows 10) | HP® Customer Support

 

Scroll down to Disabling Secure Boot on recent model notebook computers

 QUOTE: You may want to disable Secure Boot in order to install new hardware or boot from an external bootable device such as a CD or DVD or USB drive.

 

Lots of good info in that link.


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 07:36 PM

How To Create A UEFI Bootable Ubuntu USB Drive in Windows

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:28 PM

 And why not install in UEFI mode? Its not hard once the install is done you just change the boot order in UEFI

 

 

UEFI isnt the issue, secure boot is though


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 11:28 AM

Well, that all worked without any problems.  :guitar:

 

Created a System Image of my Win 10 setup (as well as a System Repair Disc) then created a USB with Linux Mint on it.

 

 

Had to tweak my BIOS settings a few times (forgot to also change the boot order for UEFI) but once that was completed, *poof* booted up and I'm looking at the Mint desktop.

 

 

However....can't seem to get to the Internet. It sees my wifi and the signal is strong. Plugged in my password but when I launch the browser, no Internet.

 

Am going to do some googling but also wanted to post it here, in case anyone else has had this problem.

 

Also wanted to say "thank you" for everyone checking in so quickly and with all the great info and links.

 

Will keep you updated.

 

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 11:42 AM

Does saving the password in Network Settings solve the problem?

 

https://itsfoss.com/wifi-not-connecting-linux-mint-ubuntu/



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Posted 14 January 2018 - 12:02 PM

Does saving the password in Network Settings solve the problem?

 

https://itsfoss.com/wifi-not-connecting-linux-mint-ubuntu/

 

No, it's odd. When I walked through these steps, it's like I'm caught in some loop. I enter my password and then tried selecting "store this password for this user" and also "store password for all users" but once I select "Connect" the window goes away for a moment and then *poof* pops back up.  Not sure what the heck is going on.

 

Question: if I physically plug this L/T into the router and update (sudo apt-update) might this resolve?

 

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 12:10 PM

 

Does saving the password in Network Settings solve the problem?

 

https://itsfoss.com/wifi-not-connecting-linux-mint-ubuntu/

 

No, it's odd. When I walked through these steps, it's like I'm caught in some loop. I enter my password and then tried selecting "store this password for this user" and also "store password for all users" but once I select "Connect" the window goes away for a moment and then *poof* pops back up.  Not sure what the heck is going on.

 

Question: if I physically plug this L/T into the router and update (sudo apt-update) might this resolve?

 

Thanks again.

 

I think that's a question best answered by the Linux gurus. They will give you the correct terminal commands regarding your Wifi.  It would be interested to see what the terminal command below gives you.

rfkill -list


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 12:45 PM

Not sure if this is what you were looking for:

 

http://mint_wifi_issue.jpg

 


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:05 PM

I'm sorry, it should be 

rfkill list  or   rfkill list all


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:28 PM

Shows:

 

0: hci0: Bluetooth

             Soft blocked: no

             Hard blocked: no

 

1: phy0: Wireless LAN

             Soft blocked: no

             Hard blocked: no

 

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:50 PM

Not required. That is what I was expecting. I would wait for any linux gurus to provide the terminal commands to diagnose the Wifi issue.



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Posted 14 January 2018 - 10:06 PM

Which Version of Mint are you booting up?

 

I've had many problems with Mint 18 Series Networking, but it may help to use the newest available to resolve this.  You could also boot an older version just to see if it works.  The 17.xx Series is pretty darn good and boots on almost anything if you choose the right one.  I always use 17.1 just in case there are graphics that are not compatible with the newer Versions, like .2 and .3.  I'll bet Wifi works with 17.1-2 or 3

 

You could post the outcome of this command, that may help others here when they get time.

lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network

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