Windows is indeed becoming a 2nd rate OS. It's a crying shame to purchase a new device, get two upgrades per year and nothing works like it's supposed to out of the box any longer.
O-boy, I hope the Windoz guys on the other side of the Forums don't see this LOL, jab jab jab to them lol. They don't seem to like the truth very well over there lol, friendly jab
pcpunk, that's why I stated so over on this side, few diehard Windows users comes to this side of of the site, wouldn't had said the same over there, no more than I'd knock Linux openly over here. Although don't have to, am sure that some fed up W10 users are saying worse on that side.
Yet really am repeating the truth (someone else said it prior). One purchases up to a $2,700 loaded ultrabook or hardcore gaming Windows notebook with all of the goodies ($3,000-5,000) with the Creator's Update from the Spring of 2017, then upgrades to the next in the Fall of the same year, there's a very high probability that something (usually more than one item) will be broken. On older devices, like my Optiplex 780 MT w/out a lot of advanced features, I figured out the issue after a lot of BSOD's & clean install did the same......a bad Ethernet driver installed by Microsoft during the upgrade. Found with a BSOD dump file tool. Opened Device Manger, clicked to Update the 2017 driver, rolled back to the Windows 7 (2012) one & all was fine.
It's not quite that simple on an advanced computer loaded with specialized features to include security ones such as a fingerprint reader & various sensors. Sometimes there's OEM published workarounds to fix some of the issues, more often, have to set the connection as metered, this stops a large upgrade from downloading until there's any. One must do this on every network connected to in order to prevent accidental download of the latest version (1709). Unlike those with a Pro license with the option to defer a new release for a year, the ones with Home versions must resort to this trick, there's no other way around it. No registry edits, no changing things in Group Policy to defer upgrades, these has been effectively neutered.
Fortunately, us Linux users need not worry with these things, many of us has a Panel icon that's a gentle reminder of updates, and must manually click onto a seperate tab in order to upgrade to the next point release, say from Linux Mint 18.(any version) to 18.3.
And the situation will be getting worse as Windows 10 S will be pushed more & more on promo, there's even less control on these machines, every 3rd party app must come from the Windows Store. This means no third party security, Windows Defender it is, same with browser, it's Microsoft Edge, like it or not. For now. Microsoft is easing into this, before all is said & done, higher percentages of these computers will have to be shipped by large OEM's, or pay more for their bulk Windows licenses that'll tack on up to another $50 per unit to make up the difference. That's the bad thing, the OEM's are caught in the middle of a power struggle, it's going to get a lot worse with the next-gen UEFI rollout come 2020. This will also have an effect on those wanting to convert these into Linux computers, the distros will have to pay for their key more often & won't be able to inherit these from Ubuntu, Arch & other major Linux ones. Every distro will have to cough up the cash for their own key to install on these machines. Plus these computers will be locked down harder than ever, Secure Boot will become mandatory, not an option to flip on or off as desired.
A combination of these factors will make more want Linux on well maintained business machines, the ones available on eBay now for $89-149, only will be the late-gen BIOS computers by then at higher pricing. Why? Because resellers knows what's going on and can charge what they please for computers still in mint to excellent condition, even those classified as 'B' grade will be a little more costly than today. Glad that I could scoop up a few when were available at great pricing, Linux installs easily onto these & most everything works fine & due to ever tightening policies by Microsoft, many Windows users will be happy to convert, furthermore, these same new Linux users will know to take care of these & stockpile extras when deals comes along.
Make no mistake about it, Linux market share will begin to go on an upwards path like we've never seen when both Windows 7 & 8.1 reaches EOL & stricter UEFI mandates rolls out.
We'll have to do our part in welcoming these new Linux users, providing any and all support needed in the transition, some will have to be treated with kid gloves (babied through the process). There are many of today's Linux users who took more time to adjust than others, everyone is different and have varying self-learning skills. Hopefully we'll have more seasoned Linux veterans as members here by then and can handle the load to the utmost of our ability, we must make these members feel at home as well. Otherwise, some will move on to a site where they'll have that feeling. While we do have quality help here that meets the need for today, things can become entirely different in a couple or three years time & must be prepared, no matter what it takes. Should that become traveling to dedicated Linux sites & seeking out non-aggressive members to invite here, so be it.
Edited by cat1092, 23 January 2018 - 05:49 AM.