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#1 Kin_El

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 03:30 PM

Mod edit ~Al1000: Discussion regarding market share split from https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/601504/which-distro-is-right-for-me-redux/?p=4410620

 

I using Ubuntu is the best distro to start beginners (More support for newbies)....

 
 
If the criteria of support were the only factor then I would recommend all beginners to start with Linux Mint. I believe that there are a lot of factors for a beginner to consider, so Ubuntu is really a nice place to start, but definitely not because of the support factor.

 
Today, Linux Mint is the 4th most used desktop OS in the World, ranked only behind Ubuntu in the Linux distros, Apple's iOS (all versions) & Windows (all versions). Huh ?
 
Check out any of the multiple sources on the net and you'll find that the most optimistic place Linux occupies around 2.5% market share at best.

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Posted 05 January 2018 - 04:54 AM

That optimistic 2.5% depends on who is doing the counting & when. :)

 

Of course, 2.5% is still by all means, far better over when I began running Linux over 9 years ago (late 2008). As to the numbers, these are often fudged, most Linux users could care less about market share, as long as we know we're a growing group. Part of the proof is the sheer number of Linux based material or instructions on the Internet compared to 9 years back, when these were rare & often didn't address what the masses needed, usually power users. 

 

About fudged numbers, Apple, Google & Microsoft keeps up with these counters, especially the latter, all that have to do in instruct all resellers to have every demo computer connected to the Internet with screen saver lock. Of course this costs, yet am sure that the retailers gets something for their efforts, be it some free product (extra computers) or other means of a kickback. Once all of these computers stays connected, the stat counters cannot tell the difference between those on demo & in actual use, so Microsoft can gain an additional 0.5-1% from that alone. Stat counters, while not totally useless, on the other hand, aren't an exact science. It's simply a calculated guess. 

 

At the same time, most Linux users doesn't keep up with this & if so, most won't have their computers running just to be a part of these counters, home users has no incentive to keep ours running 24/7. If by rare chance, most were connected during a count, usage would show a lot higher. Some counts has shown Linux to be over 3% in 2017. 

 

More proof that Linux is growing are the number of what was once primarily Windows tech forums now has a Linux section. While not as active as the latter, still every new member counts, many are new to Linux & needs to learn. Many also realizes that the clock is ticking down on the EOL date of Windows 7 (Microsoft will likely, as with XP, host a 'Windows 7 Countdown' to lure folks to 'get up to date'. Many of who has declined W10 when offered, stating a loud NO to their efforts, some going as far as altering the registry to disable OS upgrades & disabling Telemetry at the same time. 

 

Finally, while no OS is bulletproof (look at the recent dual threat Intel scandal that affects all OS's), more users are aware that Malware & Ransomware are real threats & here to stay. Take a peek at those in the 'Am I Infected' line, and at best, maybe a couple of Linux users are there, usually a false alarm. While infections can travel through a Linux computer & possibly be passed onto others, particularly on the same network, the chances of actual infection are slim. 

 

Given all of the above, I feel that Linux usage is higher than 2.5%, there's lots of reasons to believe this number is on the conservative side. :)

 

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#3 Kin_El

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Posted 05 January 2018 - 11:55 PM

I'm in total agreement with everything you say and clearly I misread you as you were only talking about Linux and not desktop OS's in general so my bad.

 

I understand that counters are only an very rough indicator but I'm sure they must be working with some sort of averaging algorithm.

 

I read somewhere that Windows 10 (and perhaps other MS OS's too) is counted in the stats if it's detected just once in any given month which if true would further underline what an unmitigated disaster it is and one which might have totally tanked if it had not been force fed to an almost completely captive and unwilling audience !

 

A couple of years on it seems to me to have become a bit of a cult not unlike Apple where a small minority of diehard fanboys will not hear a word uttered against it whilst the silent majority rue the day they ever installed it and given the opportunity would switch back to Windows 8.1 or even 7 in a heartbeat.



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Posted 06 January 2018 - 12:05 AM

Kin_El said...

I read somewhere that Windows 10 (and perhaps other MS OS's too) is counted in the stats if it's detected just once in any given month which if true would further underline what an unmitigated disaster it is and one which might have totally tanked if it had not been force fed to an almost completely captive and unwilling audience !

 

A couple of years on it seems to me to have become a bit of a cult not unlike Apple where a small minority of diehard fanboys will not hear a word uttered against it whilst the silent majority rue the day they ever installed it and given the opportunity would switch back to Windows 8.1 or even 7 in a heartbeat.""

 

+1 .... :thumbup2: :bowdown: :thumbsup: :cool:

 

(....in other words, I agree )


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Posted 06 January 2018 - 12:58 PM

The other thing in favor of Linux, are newer computers & these recent releases of W10. 

 

Many has to basically reconfigure everything for the hardware to work, that's a lot of work. Especially fingerprint readers & other features that's native to the computer, the OEM's rarely provides assistance, being that a certain OS was on the purchased computer, Unfortunately, there's many computers, both notebooks & PC's, that ships with an older version of W10, then upgrades & all is thrown out of whack. 

 

That's a big problem with making W10 the equivalent of Debian, both are rolling release OS's, only Debian gets it right. :)

 

If one has to relearn how to use their computer after a new update to W10, typically twice per year, may as well learn Linux instead. At least one will know how to configure things after an newer LTS release, Linux is far more predictable over W10 in that regard. 

 

As to which Linux distro one should run, that part is up to the user, although distros such as Linux Mint makes for an easy transition. :)

 

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 06:37 PM

Kin_El said...

I read somewhere that Windows 10 (and perhaps other MS OS's too) is counted in the stats if it's detected just once in any given month which if true would further underline what an unmitigated disaster it is and one which might have totally tanked if it had not been force fed to an almost completely captive and unwilling audience !

 

A couple of years on it seems to me to have become a bit of a cult not unlike Apple where a small minority of diehard fanboys will not hear a word uttered against it whilst the silent majority rue the day they ever installed it and given the opportunity would switch back to Windows 8.1 or even 7 in a heartbeat.""

 

+1 .... :thumbup2: :bowdown: :thumbsup: :cool:

 

(....in other words, I agree )

 

+1! :thumbsup:

 

I've kind of noticed that myself, some of today's W10 users are a lot like the Apple cult of when the late, great Steve Jobs was the leader. No matter how severe the weather, many of his following would be waiting in line up to 24 hours to purchase their limit of two whatever new devices released. Even though the same could had pre-ordered & received on the very same day, it wasn't about that. Rather part of the culture that Jobs created that's now been watered down because Tim Cook cannot wear his jockstrap, let alone fire up a crowd as intensely. Apple's bread & butter are now app sales, no longer hardware alone (even smartphones), they have a dynamic team (not Cook alone) that can adjust on the fly, shifting in which direction needed to keep the corporation profitable. 

 

We need someone with the mindset of Steve Jobs at the Linux helm, although was unique & there'll never be another like him, I'd take 75% closer to his way of doing things. Someone like Jobs would unite Linux users rather than having 500+ distros, urge them to spread the word & things would simply happen. Growth world skyrocket, as Windows 7 & 8.1 users would be targeted to join the Linux ranks. 

 

While I don't know when, or if someone will step up to the plate & take over, Linux users could use someone with that 'cult' mindset to step in & lead the way. This is a real chance to break Microsoft down while they're evenly split (W7 & 8.1 users versus W10 ones) & maybe the last best opportunity to do so. While it's true that there's been Linux leaders closely working with Microsoft, this partnership benefits the latter rather than Linux users. They get everything, we get the crumbs thrown at our feet, an app such as Skype for Linux in return. 

 

Hopefully that someone will come sooner rather than later, there's a lot at stake. :)

 

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 10:50 PM

 

Check out any of the multiple sources on the net and you'll find that the most optimistic place Linux occupies around 2.5% market share at best.

When people say Linux they mean a Distro like Ubuntu or mint that runs your PC.

 

Did you know smartphones, cars, supercomputers and home appliances use Linux?



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Posted 13 January 2018 - 01:10 AM

Yes, as Nick says, although Linux' share of the desktop and laptop market is low, the Linux kernel is ubiquitous, and incorporated into just about anything that connects to the net.

 

That's not to say that there's not a whole lot of proprietary code included in all these devices, but essentially they're all "wrapped around" a Linux kernel, so you could say, that actually Linux is the most prevalent OS there is.



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Posted 13 January 2018 - 04:43 AM

 

 

Check out any of the multiple sources on the net and you'll find that the most optimistic place Linux occupies around 2.5% market share at best.

When people say Linux they mean a Distro like Ubuntu or mint that runs your PC.

 

Did you know smartphones, cars, supercomputers and home appliances use Linux?

 

 

Anyone who has a smart TV has Linux installed, many of these also includes a Web browser to use if needed, although I don't bother with this, because doesn't get updated often. Both smartphones & TV's spys on it's users more so than a computer does by a longshot. This is one reason why I don't care for a smartphone, although to monitor particular areas in my home more effectively, will need one to make the 'smart cams' activate & do it's job. This is how some folks keeps an eye on their nannies in order to protect their children. These cameras are also Linux powered. 

 

I've stated this many times & will again, Linux powers the World! :thumbsup:

 

All of the World's top 50 supercomputers are running Linux and aren't for showboating, rather doing lots of work that somehow affects our daily lives, running utilities such as landline & cellular phone systems, electricity, water/sewer & even the ISP we're chosen. Most routers are Linux powered, even though the software in most all of these devices are proprietary as Gary R noted above. :)

 

The reason why most Linux powered computers aren't running proprietary software is because we don't have a license to do so, nor are there installers for many choices. We've just recently received a decent working Skype for Linux, at one time was very flaky (at best) to use. There are likely other choices, it's just that Skype stands out due to popularity, w/out it, many wouldn't run Linux because we can't stay connected with others. Now, that's one less excuse not to run Linux. :thumbup2:

 

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 12:41 PM

When you consider all devices connected to the Internet Android is top dog.

 

http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share



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Posted 13 January 2018 - 03:55 PM

Yes when you consider all the devices running Linux on the net, It makes Windows look like the small time second rate insecure operating system that it is.






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