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Would you flash a BIOS listed as "beta"


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#1 lmacmil

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 05:12 PM

I have an ASUS B150 mobo and their site shows a BIOS update for fix the meltdown/spectre issue.  I am somewhat reluctant to flash it since it is listed a "beta" which I interpret meaning it's not quite finished yet.  I have patched Windows and made a recommended setting change to Chrome until a update is released.  Any recommendations on the BIOS update?  I am inclined to wait a week or two to see if the beta designation goes away.



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#2 Chris Cosgrove

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 05:17 PM

I agree with you, wait for a finalised version. A beta version of say a browser might not work but it is highly unlikely to brick your computer. A beta BIOS that turns out not to work on your system - a bit more important !

 

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 05:18 PM

Would I flash firmware listed as Beta? Hell no.



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Posted 09 January 2018 - 05:47 PM

I will let Daniel Bryan say my response:

 


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Posted 09 January 2018 - 05:58 PM

Would I flash firmware listed as Beta? Hell no.

 

 

agreed...with a double hell no



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Posted 09 January 2018 - 06:05 PM

Thanks all.  I'll wait until it's no longer listed as beta.



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Posted 09 January 2018 - 06:07 PM

Even so dont update your bios unless it is absolutely needed.

 

if something goes wrong with your update it can brick your system.

 

For me i will never update my BIOS even under pain of death.


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Posted 09 January 2018 - 07:05 PM

if something goes wrong with your update it can brick your system.

 

For me i will never update my BIOS even under pain of death.

 

The chance of a UEFI or BIOS update with a non-beta update, downloaded from a manufacturer's support site, and where the instructions for updating are followed to the letter actually bricking a machine is about as likely as my becoming a world class runner at age 55 with an arthritic knee.

 

The risk of a bad result from a UEFI or BIOS update, done according to the instructions, is really, really remote.  I've got all sorts of other things that I'd worry about that are far more likely to happen.


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 08:47 AM

BIOS updates often bring stability and performance improvements along with essential things like security updates.  I usually apply them. I would NOT apply a BIOS marked as BETA though.

 

On here I'd always advise someone to be cautious and advise of the slim possibility of bricking a system, but on my own gear I update it unless there's a good reason not to... I've not bricked a system yet like this  :bananas:


Edited by jonuk76, 10 January 2018 - 08:49 AM.

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 01:27 PM

MadmanRB, I've been an Information Technology (IT) professional for over 20 years.  I have mainly done level 2 support, sometimes referred to as desktop support.  In 20 years I have bricked one machine and that was back in the mid 90s and the machine had issues prior to the update.  I'd estimate I performed over 150 BIOS updates last year as it is part of my process when deploying equipment is to ensure it has the most recent BIOS installed, unless there is a known issue with the current BIOS.

 

BIOS updates these days are not the voodoo they used to be.  Many systems actually perform a BIOS copy as part of the update, in case anything goes wrong the copy can be used to restore the machine to the pre-update BIOS.



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Posted 10 January 2018 - 01:38 PM

BIOS updates these days are not the voodoo they used to be. 

 

 

And haven't been for a very, very long time.   They can be and should be treated as a standard maintenance item.  If your system happens to have an update manager that you trigger in Windows, like any other program, it's almost impossible to screw up absent a power outage mid-flash.   Run updater, restart system, flash occurs as part of restart, and away you go.

 

Even for those that still require you to use the more old-school UEFI/BIOS interface itself to update BIOS, it's a simple and well defined series of steps that, when followed, simply work.

 

Bricked machines are exceedingly rare except in cases of really gross operator error when using the old-school interface or if the flash is interrupted.   As you've noted, it's now very common to be able to "unbrick" a computer bricked by an interrupted flash process, too.

 

To paraphrase Twain, "Reports of bricked machines due to BIOS/UEFI updates have been greatly exaggerated."


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 02:43 PM

I have had so many clients ask me the same question and thankfully they asked beforehand.  Definitely NO.  I don't recommend flash or upgrading the BIOS even if it's an accepted version, not beta.  Unless you have added a piece of hardware not supported by the BIOS, leave it alone, and even then there are too many things that can go wrong and trash the entire system.  Flashing is also a preferred method for inserting nasty things into your system by nasty people.



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Posted 11 January 2018 - 09:36 AM

Even so dont update your bios unless it is absolutely needed.

 

if something goes wrong with your update it can brick your system.

 

For me i will never update my BIOS even under pain of death.

I have updated my current mobo BIOS and many previous ones without a problem.  I'm not afraid to do it but will wait until it is no longer designated beta.



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Posted 11 January 2018 - 09:43 AM

Back when I first installed my FX8320...I read that a BIOS flash was recommended by the motherboard manufacturer for those like me.

 

The flash was easy and I did it unhesitatingly.

 

If such is recommended by any reliable source...I see no reason to not do such.

 

I don't believe in being a beta-tester for software...or firmware.  I would never bother with a "beta" BIOS, since such seems like the developers of such...have misgivings about it.  If they are concerned...that would make me concerned and I would wait or only consider final versions of such.

 

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Edited by hamluis, 11 January 2018 - 09:45 AM.





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