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Is This Laptop Suitable for Linux?


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#1 LittleGreenDots

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 02:03 PM

Can I install Linux Mint on the Acer Aspire E 15 (E5-575-33BM) laptop?

 

Here is a link to the specs:  https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/NX.GG5AA.005

 

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 03:24 PM

I cant see why it wouldn't run Linux.



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Posted 28 December 2017 - 03:53 PM

I was only asking because I have another computer I bought earlier this year and it is customized only for windows.  I was told I can't install Linux on it.  Thanks.



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Posted 28 December 2017 - 04:02 PM

 

I was told I can't install Linux on it.

There is no such thing as can't install, its just that it may be harder to install, I am sure if I had the PC in front of me I would work it out but its not something I would like to do thru a forum as it takes too long.



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Posted 28 December 2017 - 04:45 PM

I have a newer HP Windows 10 that I think the sales staff told me wouldn't work with a Linux operating system.  They told me that some of the hardware mfg are designing components made specifically to work with Windows.  I'd LOVE to Linux-ize that computer.   I'll get the model and specs. 

 

This is good news.


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Posted 28 December 2017 - 05:00 PM

Hi, LittleGreenDots.

 

I agree with Nick, about your first post. It's Intel, through & through. That means Linux-friendly; I don't care what anybody else says (I daresay Cat will be along tomorrow, with a discourse about the hardware side of things, bless 'im!).....barring an unusually awkward UEFI setup, it should certainly be possible.

 

As for HP, ignore 'em. They're trying to put the frighteners on you, probably along the lines of coming out and saying that if you try and modify it, you'll kiss good-bye to your warranty. Might be easier to swap the drive out, and install Linux to a second drive; that way, you can always put it back to original if you want to sell it.

 

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 05:43 AM

I have a newer HP Windows 10 that I think the sales staff told me wouldn't work with a Linux operating system.


I have a "newer HP Windows 10" laptop that works just fine with Linux.

They told me that some of the hardware mfg are designing components made specifically to work with Windows.


Computers may be designed for Windows, but Linux is designed for computers. :)

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 05:47 AM

 

I'd LOVE to Linux-ize that computer.

Its easy, Create a Live CD/DVD or USB and use it to boot the PC, If it works live it will work installed.

 

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Make sure you turn off fast boot.


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Posted 29 December 2017 - 10:01 AM

Thanks.  I have two computers I want to migrate to Linux, and I really like the idea of swapping the HD on the HP.  Do I need to change any BIOS settings when switching the hard drives?



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Posted 29 December 2017 - 01:14 PM

That Acer should run like a banshee with linux on it.

 

Swapping the HDD is/would be really nice if you can afford it.  That will save you plenty of time and massive aggravation if you want windows back!  No BIOS Changes for a HDD Swap, but the settings will need to be changed to boot from Linux.  


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Posted 30 December 2017 - 12:10 AM

Post #8, there is still the risk of that mess which occured a few years back wth lenovo computers having hard-drives set up to always operate as (I think it was) a RAID array of a form which linux didn't have support for, for a problem like this live booting wouldn't reveal it. Also one ought to turn off secure boot, while some linux distros like ubuntu and some of red hats products are able to sometimes work with secure boot in limited circumstances most distros are not.


When buying computers I HIGHLY recommend taking a live linux USB to the shop and refusing to purchase anything which you are not able to test live booting on there and then. This won't rule out weird issues like the one that affected some lenovo systems, but it will let you ensure that a device you plan to buy does not have un-disable-able secure boot or badly designed motherboards and BIOS/UEFI.

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Posted 30 December 2017 - 08:20 AM

I used this search and found that this pc should easily run Linux as many have done so already.

 

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 05:39 AM

Hi, LittleGreenDots.

 

I agree with Nick, about your first post. It's Intel, through & through. That means Linux-friendly; I don't care what anybody else says (I daresay Cat will be along tomorrow, with a discourse about the hardware side of things, bless 'im!).....barring an unusually awkward UEFI setup, it should certainly be possible.

 

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I agree with this, most all Intel computers can run Linux, it's just that a couple of brands, notably Samsung & Lenovo, does something with the UEFI that causes booting into Linux (even a rescue media) to 'semi-brick' the machine (usually causes a constant boot loop). The hardware is still fine, yet the computer UEFI needs to be reprogrammed, a (minimum) $300 repair that's not only uncovered by warranty, also voids it (with the OEM). If a 3rd party warranty, may not matter, they'll fix or replace the unit. SquareTrade actually reimburses the cost of computer if costs too much to repair. 

 

Unfortunately, most local shops cannot repair these, special tools are required that the OEM keeps a secret, oddly, a Linux one! :P

 

Yet on most computers other than many of those, Linux runs fine. I had an HP that ran Linux Mint for 2-3 years. If in doubt, go to the OEM's forum, most all has one & look for Topic in regards to Linux installs on certain models. 

 

To be honest, I've seen W10 cause far more damage than Linux on computers, especially those that were designed to run Vista or older. These can be rescued easier, although kind of tricky to do, extracting the latest BIOS with 7zip & creating a Win98 boot media. It messed up the PC I'm typing this post on, took months for me to find the fix. Was close to being torn down, saving all screws & anything reusable & tossing the rest. 

 

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 08:21 PM

To give it a shot why don't you just make an image of current setup and store on an external drive with Veeam and try installing your Distro of choice. If it doesn't work you can always just restore the image of windows as if nothing happened. 



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Posted 04 January 2018 - 03:54 AM

To give it a shot why don't you just make an image of current setup and store on an external drive with Veeam and try installing your Distro of choice. If it doesn't work you can always just restore the image of windows as if nothing happened. 

 

That may indeed work, as long as the computer in question UEFI isn't knocked out (semi-bricked). The hardware isn't bricked or affected, what controls it could be. In that case, even removing the drive & replacing with another won't help, other than the customer/owner can play dumb as though 'what happened?' :P

 

In regards to the OP & this Topic, while nothing's impossible, have yet to hear of Linux breaking the UEFI (or BIOS) of Acer computers, are among the Linux friendly models. :)

 

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