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#1 NickAu

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 07:30 PM

Hi

 

As the title says No Script for FF 57 is out, as I never disabled the old version it auto updated. Even uses all my old settings.

 

 

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 10:35 AM

Don't rate the "new" NoScript for Firefox 57, the new interface is rubbish, and it's nowhere near as configurable as the old NoScript was.

 

I know this is a new release, and done in a rush, but it needs a hell of a lot more development before it's fit for purpose.

 

Until it is improved, I do not intend to use it.



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Posted 21 November 2017 - 10:50 AM

It's well-known that the new WebExtensions API is inferior to the old Add-ons SDK when it comes to supported features, and it will remain so, as Mozilla engineers want to limit the core browser functions add-ons can access on purpose, for security reasons.

Nonetheless, NoScript doesn't seem to be particularly impacted by the new API in a severe way, as it's still able to do its job just fine.

"NoScript 10 is very different from 5.x: some things are simpler, some things are improved, some are still missing and need to wait for WebExtensions APIs not available yet in Firefox 57," Maone said without elaborating on what NoScript features are impacted directly by the new and limited API.

 

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/noscript-add-on-updated-for-firefox-57-and-the-new-webextensions-api/

 

Looks like a mess to me. I'll stick to ESR. At least until July 2018 when ESR migrates to v59.


Edited by JohnC_21, 21 November 2017 - 10:51 AM.


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 02:53 PM

Although not a FireFox fan, I do keep it as a 'back-up' browser. I, too, have just recently finished migrating those Pups which can't run 'Quantum', to, you guessed it.....52esr. I only run two Pups that can't handle 52esr.....and they're both using the previous 45esr.

 

Since it'll now play NetFlix, and a few of our members have developed a simple 'pulseaudio' workaround on the Puppy Forums, it'll do me in a pinch!

 

Seems FF is only really interested in the 'pulseaudio' libs.....and couldn't care less about all the rest of the guff that goes along for the ride.

 

 

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 04:04 PM

Atlast, we've missed it. But the new interface is a real mess ( I tried firefox 57 release with NoScript 10 on one machine), I hope it is still work in progress, it's gone in the all looks no features direction, hopefully this is not a permanent change. NoScript 5.1.7 is brilliantly configurable, so many useful options, NoScript 10 has nothing but a single webapge with a glorified whitelist.

The NoScript developer Giorgio Maone has been having a hell of a time trying to get things done due to the lateness with which mozilla decided on the exact design of their new quantum API, I hope I'm right in thinking that the current NoScript version has been rushed out and that the crucial features (temporarily allow domain example.com, temporarily allow all this page, revoke temporary permissions, clicking on disable objects like flash and iframes to let them run, clearly labelled buttons with words on...) will come back soon when the developer has had time to remake them for the new API. I'll be sticking to version 5 based NoScript on firefox ESR for my main browser until such time as NoScript is fully featured again.

Firefox 57 is pretty over-rated too, the new design is ugly and while it's not seemingly slower than ESR it isn't much quicker to me either. That and all the address bar regions (separate search and address box have survived for me) have been squashed up small at the top. Especially with the problems NoScript is going through there is no reason to leave ESR and NoScript version 5.1.7.

Best of luck to Giorgio Maone and hope he gets the full functionality implemented again soon.

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 04:19 PM

 

Giorgio Maone has been having a hell of a time trying to get things done due to the lateness with which mozilla decided on the exact design of their new quantum API,

 

The Road to Firefox 57 – Compatibility Milestones

https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/02/16/the-road-to-firefox-57-compatibility-milestones/


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 06:30 PM

They planned the new quantum API and gave initial warnings pretty early, many months and almost a year for some of the announcements, but a lot of details for it weren't finalised until a few days before 57 was released, atleast that's what I've gathered from the things I've seen.
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Posted 22 November 2017 - 08:51 PM

Good work guys, thanks for keeping up on this for the rest of us!  I'm going to follow as close as possible in hopes to get onboard with some firefox useage, as of now mostly only use Chrome, unless forced, will have used firefox.


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Posted 23 November 2017 - 10:37 PM

Ha, I can't use the darn thing lol.  Can someone point me to some directions, can't seem to find them?


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Posted 28 November 2017 - 05:24 PM

There are some instructions here and here but right now NoScript 10 is a work in progress. Best to wait a few months, sticking with NoScript 5.1.7, until the situation calms down and NoScript 10 should be back to achieving the same features NoScript 5 had.

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 09:41 AM

I am simply going to use Firefox 56 and NoScript for some yet to be determined time period...possibly months. After reading a ton of

comments at NoScript's Firefox download page....I'm sure this is the best thing to do. I think Firefox needs to be criticized more for NoScript's

"problems" than the developer of NoScript. 


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Posted 29 November 2017 - 03:35 PM

I think things like No script and a decent popup blocker should be part of Firefox and not an optional download.


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Posted 30 November 2017 - 01:44 AM

I expect the reason that they're not, is because it's more efficient to leave the development of that type of function to specialists.

 

The advantage of a modular, plug-in, approach, is that you don't need to maintain a core staff of specialists yourself, instead you provide a vehicle where 3rd party specialists can supply the services you need.

 

The disadvantage obviously, is that the functions they supply are not present by default, and therefore need to be consciously added.






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