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Building Ryzen5 1600 ~AUD$1500 New PC Box


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#1 ssar

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Posted 08 November 2017 - 06:48 PM

Need to build a new PC Box:

(Nov 2017, Australian prices $AUD)

 

Uses: Some gaming (on cheapish AOC 27” Monitor @ 1920 x 1080 60Hz, unconcerned about high refresh rates & ultra texture detail etc.), some high-res image & video editing, other general programs.
Onboard Sound is fine, uninterested in water cooling or gaming bling/colourful lighting, unlikely to overclock much.
Budget: ~AUD$1500

 

Current Box is a bit of a mix with various parts replaced / changed over the years etc.

 

Current PC Specs @ Oct17:
CPU – Intel Core2Duo E6400 LGA775 (Feb07)
M/B – Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L LGA775 (Dec09)
SOUND – Onboard Realtek ALC883
LAN – Onboard Atheros AR8131
GPU – Asus 256MB 7600GS PCI-e (Feb07)
RAM – 4GB DDR2-800 PC6400 Low Density (2 x 2GB Dual Channel)
HD0 – Internal Seagate SATA2 250GB 16MBcache (Feb07)
HD1 – Internal Seagate SATA2 320GB 16MBcache (Feb07)
HD2 – External Toshiba Canvio USB 1TB (Data Backup)
OPTICAL – Pioneer DVR-107D DVDRW IDE
CASE – Antec Sonata II Midi ATX (Feb07)
PSU – Aywun A80+ A1-550S 550W ATX (May14)
MON1 – AOC 27” E2752VQ 2ms DP LCD (@ 1920 x 1080, 60Hz) (Apr14)
MON2 – HP 24” LP2475W 6ms DVI H-IPS TFT LCD (@ 1920 x 1200, 60Hz) (Apr14)
KB – Thermaltake Poseidon Z Wired USB (Apr16)
Mouse – Asus Rog Gladius Wired USB (Apr16)
SPKR – Sony SRS-D8 3-pc incl. Sub
PRINT – Canon Pixma MP810 Multifunction USB (Feb07)
O/S – MS Win7 Ultimate

 

I’ve got a new GPU: ASUS Radeon RX480 4GB (Dual-RX480-O4G PCI-e) to use in the new Box

 

I’ll continue to use all the peripherals: Dual Monitors, Keyboard, Mouse etc.

 

I’ll be installing a fresh new Windows installation, perhaps my Win7 Ultimate, or a new Win10 EDU version.

 

New Box: 01Nov17: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/WyN6kT

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core 65W Box ~$280
M/B: Asus STRIX B350-F Gaming ATX AM4 ~$170
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 (CMK32GX4M2B3000C15, 15-15-15-36) ~ $500
GPU: ASUS Radeon RX480 4GB Dual-RX480-O4G PCI-e (already own)
STORAGE: Crucial 1.1TB MX300 M.2-2280 SSD (CT1050MX300SSD4) ~$380
CASE: Fractal Design Define R5 (Titanium) ATX Mid Tower ~$160
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA Series G2 750 Modular 750W 80+ Gold ~$150
OPTICAL: ASUS DVD/CD Writer SATA ~$18

 

Total: AUD$1644

 

RAM: I’ll hopefully clock the RAM to 2666 or 2933 MHz OK (I’ve found the online Memory Qualified Vendors List for this mainboard & it does list that RAM)
I could save ~$250 & use a 16GB (2 x 8GB) Kit instead, mainly going 32GB to future-proof & allow for potential heavier high-res media editing etc.

 

MAINBOARD: I’d look at a BIOS update before installing Windows, & whilst this Asus STRIX B350-F has gaming lighting (which I’m not concerned with) it seems well-reviewed & good quality.

 

STORAGE: I like the idea of a large single SSD, even though the Crucial MX300 M.2 reportedly performs at relatively slow speeds compared to the much more expensive Samsung Evo & Pro units? I’m thinking it should still hum along nicely, especially compared to the 5400/7200rpm mechanical HDDs.
Am hoping this is detected fine in the mainboard, & the new Windows installation from USB stick will work fine on it?
 



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Posted 08 November 2017 - 10:31 PM

I would go with a primary SSD and secondary hard disc or portable hard disc for storage.

Having a bigger SSD is a costly issue.

 

Isn't the RAM too costly ( it is literally 1/3 of your initial budget!!)

 

As the system is for gaming I suggest gaming mic and gaming keyboard, gaming mouse along with pad.

Might be adding to your budget but is worth the cost. If you have them already it's awesome.

 

The Motherboard will be having 4 RAM Slots so even 4 x 8Gb should work.


Edited by Hareen, 08 November 2017 - 11:19 PM.


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Posted 08 November 2017 - 11:10 PM

You are also over paying for the MB, $119.95 back in stock 11NOV17

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071SGQP1Q/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

 

Also over paying for the PS...$89.00

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKDETOW/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_3?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1



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Posted 08 November 2017 - 11:22 PM

You are overpaying for the parts.

 

See this link: (just suggestions.)

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074QQ8187/ref=twister_B072FBN83F?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1



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Posted 09 November 2017 - 06:13 AM

After currency conversions the Australian prices aren't too far out of the ballpark for most, especially considering likely international shipping.

I'm pretty much only gonna consider Australian sources, to avoid possible warranty issues with items sourced internationally (has bitten me in the past).

 

But yea, we often have some inflated prices down here.

Most modern RAM especially has steadily increased in price here over the past couple of years sadly.



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Posted 09 November 2017 - 09:17 AM

Any reason why you like large single SSD? Main problem with MX300 M.2 is fact that it's SATA type so you could as well take 1 TB SATA version of it. Another thing is that right now SSD prices are very high. My pick would be https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/LKFPxr/a-data-internal-hard-drive-asp900ns38512gmc

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 11:52 AM

Memory for Ryzen is most critical. I highly recommend Samsung B-Die, Single side, Single rank ICs.

I could be mistaken but it appears that the memory kit you have chosen may be Hynix based ICs (lowest performing ICs) and very hard to set up. (rarely reaching spec speed)

 

Perhaps this will help you in your selection https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/649ay8/ram_collection_thread_please_post_your_ram/

 

Consider these

32GB (2x16) https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232560&ignorebbr=1

16GB (2x8) https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820232485 or better yet https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232530 (Flare-X C14)

32 GB (4x8) https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820232488


Edited by sandman1374, 12 November 2017 - 02:44 PM.

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 06:43 PM

Thanks for the suggestions sandman1374.

 

I'm finding RAM details confusing, honestly.

 

I've heard good things about the Asus STRIX B350-F Gaming ATX AM4 mainboard (& don't need anything higher spec as I plan to do little overclocking etc.)
I mostly want some good, reputable DDR4 RAM, with a good warranty, that will work well in that mainboard with the Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz CPU in it, clocked at ~ 2933MHz if poss (or at least ~2666MHz hopefully).
Was initially looking at 16GB DDR4-3000 Kit (2 x 8GB), which will suffice.
But now prefer 32GB (2 x 16GB) Kit to future-proof etc.

 

Have also been referred to these about RAM compatibility Qualified Vendors Lists etc:

 

https://www.amd.com/system/files/2017-06/am4-motherboard-memory-support-list-en_0.pdf

 

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/STRIX_B350-F_GAMING/ROG_STRIX_B350-F_GAMING_Memory_QVL_20170519.pdf?_ga=2.205582353.329936003.1496830631-1995554391.1496830631

 

Tho I'm unsure of much of the details.

Cheers,


Edited by ssar, 13 November 2017 - 06:46 PM.


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Posted 13 November 2017 - 09:41 PM

Ram can be confusing, especially with Ryzen at this point in AGESA Bios levels.

The new AGESA 1.0.7 levels (beta) are hopefully out at the end of this month which may make more budget memory kits and the Dual Rank/Dual Side kits (2x16GB) run at speed. This has been the issue thus far.

No promises that it will be the answer as the entire platform is so new.

 

2x16GB kits are Dual Rank Dual Side. These may, or may not be very user friendly.

I know many of the kits work on the upper tier mobo's but not sure how high they run or how much setup it takes.

32GB is not always easy to stabilize this is why I would recommend NOT going budget.

 

If you purchase a quality kit now they'll probably be no need to future proof/upgrade. (hence the 3200MHz)

If it where me I'd go with the 4x8 kit https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820232488 or https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232560 if you really want 2x16GB.

 

At worst, with current Bios revision say you can only reach 2800 to 3000MHz. You always have the option to slightly tighten timings to offset the freq difference. (it's really not that hard)

The newer AGESA may very well act real well right of the box and allow the rated 3200MHz.

I've seen others run this kit above 3200MHz.

 

It can always be a gamble (chip dependent) when purchasing memory but I always go with quality and have far better luck and a lot fewer headaches! Yes even at stock.


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Posted 21 November 2017 - 06:48 PM

STORAGE:
I doubt I can justify the extra expense for an NVMe SSD.
Prefer 1 x ~1TB SSD for O/S & data all in one (& use my external 1TB USB HDD as data backup).
I like the Samsung 850 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 - looks like 5 year warranty on it, cool.

 

OPERATING SYSTEM:
Will use Win10 EDU version (similar to Pro)

 

RAM:
Have read reports of the G.Skill Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 F4-3000C15D-16GTZB running OK @ ~2933MHz with Ryzen.
Currently researching other G.Skill 16GB or 32GB DDR4-3000 or DDR4-3200 Kits which aren't prohibitively expensive.

 

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Current parts list @22Nov17 (AUD$ Prices): https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/ssar/saved/8JkHNG

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core 65W Box ~$280
M/B: Asus STRIX B350-F Gaming ATX AM4 ~$170
RAM: G.Skill Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 F4-3000C15D-16GTZB ~ $280
GPU: ASUS Radeon RX480 4GB Dual-RX480-O4G PCI-e (already own)
STORAGE: Samsung 850 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 MZ-N5E1T0BW ~$415
CASE: Fractal Design - Define R5 Blackout Edition w/ Window ATX Mid Tower ~$180
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA Series G2 750 Modular 750W 80+ Gold ~$150
OPTICAL: ASUS DVD/CD Writer SATA ~$18

 

Total ~AUD$1500



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Posted 22 November 2017 - 08:39 AM

850 Evo is equally fast on M.2 slot and SATA port.




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