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Having done everything to free up space, I have none whatsoever


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#1 Benjamin_F

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 01:10 PM

Hi, 

I have a small laptop with only 30gb of memory for university. I keep all my apps, music, photos in a 125gb USB drive that I normally just leave plugged in. But sometimes I find the laptop gives me messages telling me that I have no more memory, and I can't understand it because the (one and only) C drive has nothing stored in it... 

 

The screenshot is from a program called spacesniffer that visually shows the distribution of space.... they all look like system files and important things to me. But it can't be possible that the machine simply has no space and never had any, something must be wrong! 

 

The worst part is that a couple of days ago I went through everything and deleted, cleaned up, compressed files... and I think that Windows used the newly freed up space to download a windows update ​that has occupied 4gb of space that I sorely needed to give the machine breathing space (KB4041616 AND kb4040742 occupy nearly 2gb of space)

 

I changed settings a while ago to dedicate more space to ram, but don't know if that effects anything. It had problems beforehand anyway. 

 

I don't have time to continue battling, I haven't studied nearly anything this semestre for one reason or another... please can someone give me a solution. Thanks!

 

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 02:06 PM

Welcome to Bleeping Computer.

 

Short of getting a new drive for that machine I don't think that there really is a solution.  Per Microsoft the system requirements for Windows 10 is 16GB for the 32-bit version and 20GB for the 64-bit version.  With the little bit of drive space left you're going to be forever out of space.  I had a difficult time with an 80GB drive, I couldn't imagine a 30GB.



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Posted 27 October 2017 - 04:59 PM

I have run into a couple of these just recently an HP and if I remember correctly an ACER. They both had about 30GB of flash memory and nothing else. I consider them as tablet/laptop

crossovers. I don't think there is any way of changing the drive as the flash memory is built in.

 

The first, the HP, came to me because the owner was getting plagued with pop-ups saying Windows needed updating - which was true - but there was no space to do the update. I totally failed to create any free space on this device so, with the owner's agreement, I wiped the memory and installed Linux. He was fine with this because he only uses this device for web-browsing and emails.

 

The second, I managed to create 6GB of space and gave it back so that the owner could do the update and so far I haven't had any reports that it didn't work.

 

These devices are a major problem because they look like laptops, behave like laptops, but don't have the resources to be maintained like laptops. At least with a 500GB hard drive you have some headroom !

 

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 08:03 PM

The only solution  I see is getting another hard drive and moving the OS to that hard drive. Adding a hard drive can add space to it but if there is no hard drive bay, your lock-in with your computer. You will have to get permission from school IT administration to modify their equipment.  The only thing you can try to add a USB external and use that for the Pagefile but that will eat up one USB port and you have to keep it plugin with it.

 

Have you try the Disk Cleanup Wizard. Sometimes there are old windows updates that you can safely delete it and that will free up some space. 

 

I would talk to your University and tell them that 30GB is not enough for Windows 64 bit. Probably 120GB would be efficient


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Posted 28 October 2017 - 02:07 PM

​I have no problem moving pagefile to an external USB (I didn't even know it was possible) and I have no problem changing to Linux (though I have no idea how to do either).

 

The only thing is that I have a £100 version of Microsoft office that I don't want to lose, since it's practically all I use the thing for. (effectively it's a HP tablet-laptop thing...). 

 

In fact every day I remember one of my friends who after going through a lot said to me "Windows doesn't have viruses... it is a virus" 



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Posted 28 October 2017 - 05:11 PM

The problem with these small memory laptops is that they do not have a laptop style 2.5" hard drive, it is all flash memory, just another chip on the motherboard.

 

What worked for me, or rather my acquaintance, was Ccleaner. This is a utiltiy for removing temporary and unnecessary files, a free download from BC -

 

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/ccleaner/

 

I used the file cleaner tool in it but set hard to remove everything except saved passwords and managed to free up about 6GB of space, enough for the owner to update it. NOTE. Ccleaner also contains a 'registry cleaner'. You are strongly advised NOT to use this aspect of it.

 

Moving the OS to an external drive is a non-starter. You can install windows from a USB drive but you cannot run it from one, at least as far as I understand. One of the two lapatops of this type I mentioned above had a slot for a micro-SD card as additional memory. This is something to investigate, it would certainly be more convenient than carrying around an external USB drive.

 

My mention of Linux, above was not a prescription for your problem. It was merely a solution that met my friend's needs. But purely for information, I installed Linux Mint 18.2 XFCE on it and the complete Mint installation, including Libre Office, took up about 3.5GB. Libre Office is a fully featured office suite with high compatibility with MS Office files. The only area I have found problems with is in running PowerPoint presentations - Libre Office does not seem to like them.

 

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