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Amazon Key ~ Thoughts ~ Would you Purchase?


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#1 softeyes

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 11:27 AM

My post is only sharing. It's purpose is not an advertisement or to promote any product or service from Amazon.

 

I just received an email that Amazon is introducing their new Amazon Key <In-home delivery and guest access> What??? Once you read what this product is all about, I'd enjoy your thoughts, would you buy the Amazon Key In-Home kit <or similar> for parcel deliveries? Even for family, friends, house cleaners, and dog walkers <etc.> to use?

 

Link for the entire spiel:

https://www.amazon.com/b?&node=17285120011&ref_=pe_3455620_258731120_em_ecg_bor_bs_ann_func

 

I frequently buy items from Amazon and I very much like my prime membership, however, I’m not keen on this new product/service, specific for parcel deliveries, regardless if it’s provided by Amazon or any other online source. The simple reason I wouldn't buy this, is it’s important for me to do the best I can to stay in charge of the privacy, security, and treasures in my home. My belief is if I willingly give access to the interior of my home, I run the risk of less than a desirable outcome. Even with the immediate notification with this <particular> system <app> that my door has been opened, items delivered and the door re-locked, along with my ability to watch the delivery take place, there’s that unfortunate chance that within seconds bad things could happen. When I bought my first house, I learned quickly to keep my garage door closed, not because it wasn’t a showcase, however, to “keep the honest, honest.” With this new Amazon Key service, I would not want to be that “one” case where the individual who has access to the inside of my home would not be honest. I would be mortified if that one tiny item that can never be replaced is quickly put into a pocket.

 

What are your thoughts? Do you have any experiences with something like this?  :)

 

<Snips> 

♣Get packages just inside your front door. Shop on Amazon and select “FREE in-home delivery” at checkout. On delivery day, we’ll notify you just before the delivery. Amazon will authorize the delivery and unlock your door. You can watch the delivery live in the Amazon Key App or see a video of it later. We’ll notify you once the delivery is complete and your door is relocked.

 

♣Not at home? Not a problem. As a Prime member, get your Amazon packages securely delivered just inside your front door. Plus, grant access to the people you trust, like your family, friends, dog walker, or house cleaner – no more leaving a key under the mat.

 

In closing, I know that there are many other options available to enhance surveillance of the activity around  exterior access points of a property. If I reach the need to monitor the deliveries of items at my front door, I'd probably go that route. <Laughing, I'd need to conduct a survey here as to the best way to accomplish that! We could ask Grinler to start a DIY forum category  :lmao: >



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#2 r.a.d.

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 12:46 PM

Never had heard of this, thanks for posting softeyes.
With the way things are going, many will probably avail themselves of this new service who can justify the price of convenience offered, present company (wife and I) excluded.
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Posted 27 October 2017 - 01:20 PM

For myself, never.   The potential for abuse from many directions is just too high.   I particularly don't like the "eye in the sky" setup inside the home that this system employs.  An article in the Washington Post by Christine Emba pretty much sums up my feelings, and the reservations I have about this service (which, for me, isn't a service but an invasion of privacy.  But that doesn't mean that anyone else has to share that perspective):

 

            Amazon Key is Silicon Valley at its most out-of-touch


Edited by britechguy, 27 October 2017 - 01:21 PM.

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 02:08 PM

It can't be all bad. I did see this article.

Lord Jesus No Longer Standing At Door And Knocking, Just Letting Self In With Amazon Key
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http://babylonbee.com/news/lord-jesus-no-longer-standing-door-knocking-just-letting-self-amazon-key/

ETA: On the other, be forewarned!

‘What Could Go Wrong With Amazon Key?’ Asks Man Who’s Never Watched Single Sci-Fi Film
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http://babylonbee.com/news/go-wrong-amazon-key-asks-man-whos-never-watched-single-sci-fi-film/

Edited by Bezukhov, 27 October 2017 - 02:31 PM.

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 05:49 AM

I can see how it would be attractive to those in apartments or condos. But, I also see it as a dream job for a serial killer...


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Posted 28 October 2017 - 07:21 AM

I can see how it would be attractive to those in apartments or condos. But, I also see it as a dream job for a serial killer...


Funny you should mention that. Amazon is already working on it.

Popular New Amazon Service Just Comes To Your House And Kills You
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https://www.theonion.com/popular-new-amazon-service-just-comes-to-your-house-and-1819917496
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Posted 28 October 2017 - 07:55 AM

OH HELL NO!

 

If anyone gets this all I can say is "You're A Trusting Soul" leave it to Amazon to come up with an idea this stupid although I believe there are people stupid enough to use it.


Edited by The-Toolman, 28 October 2017 - 07:59 AM.

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 09:08 AM

@Bezukhov

Ya gotta love the onion!


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Posted 28 October 2017 - 11:16 AM

The Amazon Blues

 After comin' home from work
I was shocked to my soul
Everything inside was gone
They even took Fido's bowl

But it's my own dang fault
I gave 'em my front door
House is empty as my heart
'Cept for that box on the floor
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Posted 24 April 2018 - 01:42 PM

Just read an article much like softeye's Topic here. Amazon Key In-Car, allowing delivery of packages to a vehicle via an app for Prime customers.

Source:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2018/04/24/amazon-starts-delivering-your-car-wherever-its-parked/499900002/

Excerpt:

It's a new addition to the Amazon Key program, which began in October, that allows Amazon drivers to open customers' front doors and leave packages inside.

The Amazon Key In-Car program is available to Prime members where Amazon Key delivery is available, currently 37 metro areas across the United States. It works with same-day, two-day and standard shipping. You don't have to be signed up for the door program to use the car delivery program. There's no installation cost, unlike the Amazon Key home smart lock and camera necessary for in-home delivery, which costs $220.

BleepingComputer article on Amazon Key- Apr. 5, 2018,

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/business/amazon-key-goes-nationwide-with-big-savings-and-exit-entry-clips/

An earlier article found on this site:

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/amazon-key-bug-lets-rogue-deliverymen-re-enter-homes-without-being-recorded/
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Posted 24 April 2018 - 02:56 PM

I find this concept every bit as creepy as I did the original.  But, again, that's just me (and probably millions of others) while there are droves who feel otherwise.


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Posted 26 April 2018 - 01:26 PM

Anyone interested?

Amazon Now Delivers Packages Directly To Your Bedroom While You Sleep
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http://babylonbee.com/news/amazon-now-delivers-packages-directly-to-your-bedroom-while-you-sleep/
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Posted 26 April 2018 - 09:05 PM

Bezukhov, groan! :) I can imagine what could happen in Texas.

In the middle of the night
Heard a rustle by my bed
Didn't know was Amazon
I just shot 'em in the head

Then the cops came along
Hauled my butt to their jail
But the judge heard my plea
An' set me free without bail
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 12:16 AM

This could have implications on insurance too. Didnt read the link, but from the OP such a device sounds ludicrous. I'd rather lick Enceladus.



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Posted 05 May 2018 - 04:41 PM

I can imagine that a device like this might be useful if you put a hefty safe, concreted down to the ground, outside your door and put the amazon "lock" on the safe rather than your house door. That way they could open your outside locker, put the package in and shut it, though you could probably set up a system like this with custom hardware and just putting details of a single use keycode for the locker into your address details when ordering. If it did get hacked then unless the hack was on a day when a parcel had already been dropped off you wouldn't loose anything at all.

No device of this kind will EVER be allowed to be controlling access to my home. Nor will anything like an echo stasi unit be found inside my place.

Edited by rp88, 05 May 2018 - 04:42 PM.

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