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insane motherboard temps, after failed attempt to OC


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#1 JohnSmith11

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 10:51 AM

hello everyone,

My motherboard is Z97A

setup :

speecy quote -

Operating System
    Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
CPU
    Intel Core i7 4790 @ 3.60GHz    33 °C
    Haswell 22nm Technology
RAM
    8.00GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz (11-11-11-28)
Motherboard
    ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Z97-A (SOCKET 1150)    27 °C
Graphics
    VG712s (1280x1024@60Hz)
    2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 (ASUStek Computer Inc)    33 °C
Storage
    931GB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-00ER1A0 ATA Device (SATA)    31 °C
    119GB TS128GSSD370 ATA Device (SSD)    38 °C
Optical Drives
    ASUS DRW-24D3ST ATA Device
Audio
    Realtek High Definition Audio

 

 

now what seems to be my

Problem : Screenshots attached

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The answer(needs clarification from you guys)  I found to my problem in the internet, cant clarify its true since temps are stable on the other eras.

Answer:

if the bios says nothing about it, it is possible that board does not have a temperature sensor. that is probably why hwmonitor is being strange. remember to choose best answer.

 

 

things I tried :

 

Downloaded AI suite 3.

Failed to do the "fast" option (not extreme) could it because my sensors are damaged or the mini oc "fast" by these term, is what causing the dmg? ( the OC failed, I couldnt do anything VGA led appeared and system didnt show anything..)

so i had to reset bios to fix it. now bios did reset, after i opened PC it looked like AI suite 3 was trying to do something to digiVram and then i closed the program as fast as i could and deleted it... now im scared of the consequences ..

i really hope this is a sensor problem and not internal hardware problem that has been caused because of my attempts to get my PC into a better state

 

 

Some background info about how i built my pc...

 

i built the pc with my father, we bought all the prats and constructed it by ourselves .. this was new to both of us.

we followed the manual,

ive been getting red bleeps that turns into green at boot start. is this normal?

(i think after the oc the blips were gone, still have to check that will do a restart and update)

 

anyhow ,

 

what do you recommend me to do from here, my GPU also seems to be getting surprisingly hot for no reason ever since i bought it  , so i assume it is cus we placed it wrong.

 

lets say i play a game like PUBG, after doing memory defragmention and all what asus gputweak ll has to offer i finally managed to get it to 54"C" (which is very low compared to how it is with Nvidia apater on)

 

With nvidia adapter on 60 fps PUBG on super low settings will get me to 80"c"

 

while with nvidia adapter off same settings with gputweak it stalls on 52"c"-55"c"

 

thanks for the help, i hope we can fix this together as i have been encountering the problem and suffering from it for the last 3 years...

 

thx in advance

 

keep in mind the Fanspeed also is at 100%

so i think its some kind of OC to my otherboard which is killing it........

i have no idea how to disable it, or if its a dispaly for a sensor that is not displayed. since the OC'd (assumption)

Core (6)

is stable at his value atm. 109-111


Edited by JohnSmith11, 26 October 2017 - 11:02 AM.


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#2 mightywiz

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 05:05 PM

you can't trust 3rd party applications for voltage and temperature readings.  and i've look at other forum and your not the only one with this issue with this specific board.



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 05:34 PM

I would reset my bios to default settings and after a restart then open your bios and check the temps there.

 

I've never seen an Asus motherboard that didn't show hardware monitoring temps in the bios unless it was a factory prebuild.

 

Does the Asus motherboard DVD offer a hardware monitoring software if so I would install it and see what it says.

 

Open Hardware Monitor is not the same as the time tested and proven "CPUID HWMonitor".

 

These are the only third party system hardware monitors I trust.

 

Core Temp

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/core_temp.html

 

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Windows-Widgets/Widget-Miscellaneous/Core-Temp.shtml

 

Real Temp

https://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/

 

CPUID HWMonitor

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/hwmonitor.html

 

http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/HWMonitor.shtml


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Posted 26 October 2017 - 06:52 PM

I would reset my bios to default settings and after a restart then open your bios and check the temps there.

 

I've never seen an Asus motherboard that didn't show hardware monitoring temps in the bios unless it was a factory prebuild.

 

Does the Asus motherboard DVD offer a hardware monitoring software if so I would install it and see what it says.

 

Open Hardware Monitor is not the same as the time tested and proven "CPUID HWMonitor".

 

These are the only third party system hardware monitors I trust.

 

Core Temp

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/core_temp.html

 

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Windows-Widgets/Widget-Miscellaneous/Core-Temp.shtml

 

Real Temp

https://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/

 

CPUID HWMonitor

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/hwmonitor.html

 

http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/HWMonitor.shtml

what do you mean by "Does the Asus motherboard DVD offer a hardware monitoring software if so I would install it and see what it says."

besides, the only thing i udnerstood from your links is that i should download cpuid hwmonitor (i will do it now)

and update screens here?

before i restart my bios again does it have risks or can it dmg my system? (doing bios reset)

because it will be the 3rd time i reset my bios this week and idont want it damaged :S

 

i went in to bios settings before windows starts, it says general temp is somewhere around the ~20"c"

 

is there anyway to check voltage and all the other stuffs that i presented in the screenshot?

 

****Will edit with screenshot of CPUID hwmonitor.************

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as requested,

i must say that my pc started making sounds like heavy fans are working so i think that theres a fan or something that works at 100%...

 

can i reset bios without the switch?

if i go and do default when windows starts would that fix this problem?


Edited by JohnSmith11, 26 October 2017 - 07:13 PM.


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Posted 26 October 2017 - 07:16 PM

what do you mean by "Does the Asus motherboard DVD offer a hardware monitoring software if so I would install it and see what it says."

besides, the only thing i udnerstood from your links is that i should download cpuid hwmonitor (i will do it now)

and update screens here?

before i restart my bios again does it have risks or can it dmg my system? (doing bios reset)

because it will be the 3rd time i reset my bios this week and idont want it damaged :S

 

i went in to bios settings before windows starts, it says general temp is somewhere around the ~20"c"

 

is there anyway to check voltage and all the other stuffs that i presented in the screenshot?


 

The motherboard that you bought came with a DVD which is included.

 

The DVD has all of the factory drivers for all of the hardware on the motherboard.

The DVD also includes hardware monitoring utility software that can be installed and used in Windows OS.

 

Core Temp and Real Temp are processor temperature utilities which monitor the processor temp from inside the processor.

 

CPUID HWMonitor is a utility that is similar to Open Hardware Monitor which is the original proven and tested hardware monitor.

 

I would uninstall Open Hardware Monitor before installing CPUID HWMonitor to avoid any conflicts.

 

If you have already reset the bios to defaults then it should be OK.


Edited by The-Toolman, 26 October 2017 - 08:20 PM.

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 07:29 PM

can i reset bios without the switch?

if i go and do default when windows starts would that fix this problem?

 

I don't understand what your talking about as far as a switch.

 

To enter bios on Asus motherboards that I own you restart the computer and then start tapping the Delete key.

 

Once inside of the bios it should say what key to press to set bios to factory defaults.


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Posted 26 October 2017 - 08:04 PM

Here is a link to the motherboard model number you posted in your first post.

 

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/Z97A/HelpDesk_Manual/

 

Here is the manual for that motherboard.

 

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1150/Z97-A/E9378_Z97-A_UG_V2_WEB.pdf

 

I would read and study this carefully.

2.2 Bios Setup Program.

 

If this is the motherboard you have then you are going to have to read about how to set the bios back to factory defaults before attempting anymore changes.

I have never reset any bios through the Windows OS it has always been done in bios.

 

I would recommend that before attempting anymore overclocking attempts that you fully understand how to properly overclock.

It sounds as though you made an attempt to overclock through software in Windows.

 

In my days of overclocking it was accomplished within the bios and not through the Windows OS.


Edited by The-Toolman, 26 October 2017 - 08:15 PM.

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#8 JohnSmith11

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 09:20 PM

Here is a link to the motherboard model number you posted in your first post.

 

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/Z97A/HelpDesk_Manual/

 

Here is the manual for that motherboard.

 

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1150/Z97-A/E9378_Z97-A_UG_V2_WEB.pdf

 

I would read and study this carefully.

2.2 Bios Setup Program.

 

If this is the motherboard you have then you are going to have to read about how to set the bios back to factory defaults before attempting anymore changes.

I have never reset any bios through the Windows OS it has always been done in bios.

 

I would recommend that before attempting anymore overclocking attempts that you fully understand how to properly overclock.

It sounds as though you made an attempt to overclock through software in Windows.

 

In my days of overclocking it was accomplished within the bios and not through the Windows OS.

i tried in bios before i tried in windows,

there's a function in the motherboard called "Ez tuner"

i clicked it and the system had fatal error ...

i will read the manual but to be honest i dont want to OC

i just want to make sure my motherboard is safe and thats a bug or something like that.



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Posted 27 October 2017 - 09:35 AM

So many of the off the shelf programs purported to work with any OS and any hardware, rarely do.  Factory default settings will get you back to where the mfgr intended the unit to work.  OC will do many things, mostly increase clock speeds for CPU and GPU but can affect many other components and create a heat cascade even after the clocks have been defaulted.






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