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#1 PureCode

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 06:55 PM

So this is my build rn https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K8kKf8. I am trying to look for a good build that will be good for gaming and video editing. But not sure to go with intel or amd. 

I don't really like the mother boards I hear a lot of bad reviews for them.

So I might wait a bit


I also wanna know if the temps won't go over 70.

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 01:03 AM

Depends which is more important to you, gaming or video editing. Both AMD and Intel can do either one well although AMD have the lead in video editing and productivity whilst Intel have the lead in gaming (high refresh rate gaming to be precise)
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Posted 25 October 2017 - 03:51 AM

If an arbitrary 70C is your CPU temp limit, I'd say you've possibly already decided on a Ryzen -based rig....; of course, that depends on the CPU load induced, as naturally, gaming loads are much less than cpu-based rendering. (A Prime95/blend load is more representative of a rendering load, typically 59-60C, where as Prime95/small FFTs is more torturous, generating 13-15C more temps, up to 75C on a 7700K (with MCE enabled, i.e., 4.5 GHz turbo on all cores)

 

If never planning on getting a monitor capable of higher than 60 Hz refresh, an R5-1600 or 1700 with a mid-range GPU (RX580, GTX1060) might last you for years....; GPUs will need upgraded every 3 years for latest games, typically, and every two years is better (well, worse for the wallet, of course)

 

If wanting 144 Hz refresh under the latest games and using a GTX1080Ti/wanting highest framerates possible, the 8700K reviews are up, you can review their CPU stock temps at/under assorted loads....(I did not find them to be that bad, really, considering the 4.7 GHz clock speeds)


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Posted 25 October 2017 - 05:13 AM

TR4 is great for editing/rendering (lots of cores for $800-$1000), and if that was your 85% usage scenario, might be fine, but, 1920/1950x is typically outperformed by R5-1600 in many gaming scenarios, which, in light of the $400 for motherboards and $800-$1000 cpu cost is rather ludicrous.... It will game, but, it just seems silly to end up a bit slower than a cpu that cost $800 less

 

I'd think an R7-1700 would give very good performance in both, saving enough money in the process for essentially a free GTX1080Ti and a larger NVME SSD upgrade....($600 less CPU cost over 1950X, $350 saved TR4 when B350 works well)

 

As for TR4 motherboards, there are a batch out there being plagued with Foxconn cpu socket retention mechanism woes...so shop carefully if you do go that route)


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Posted 25 October 2017 - 09:41 AM

Continued at https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/655758/amd-vs-intel-mdd1963-vs-drillingmachine/page-8#entry4364503



#6 PureCode

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 03:59 PM

Thanks I am going to do gaming videos and gonna edit my videos.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BFzwxY This is my build now


I am new and if someone would please make me a build that would be awesome or help my build I am using rn.

 

Sorry, but could you explain it a little more?

Edited by hamluis, 12 November 2017 - 04:29 PM.


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Posted 25 October 2017 - 04:19 PM

So someone sent me the above video. It said that the mother board that the guy was using killed his AMD 1920x. So I might change the motherboard but don't know what mother broad to use https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BFzwxY This is my part list I am going to make a gaming setup plus using it to edit my videos. Feel free to add upgrades.

Edited by hamluis, 12 November 2017 - 04:31 PM.


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Posted 25 October 2017 - 04:29 PM

A few TR4 motherboards appear to have defective socket/CPU retention mechanisms, all of which appear to made by Foxconn. The boards w/sockets/mounting mechanisms made by alternative socket maker Loce are all reported to be fine...

 

This is not to say every board with a Foxconn socket has this issue; but, clearly more than a few do. There is no clear answer to what the issue is, wjether it be loose mounting mechanism, too short screws, something slightly out of tolerance, stacking tolerances gone bad, or a combination fo the above, etc....but a few are clearly having issues. If you purchase one, and end up with a Foxconn socket, proceed carefully, and do not force it as shown in the video, lest you physically damage your CPU. (not sure who/if anyone will cover bricked cpu if that occurs...)

 

I think Gamers Nexus had similar issues getting an X399 cpu retention plate locked down in one of their videos...


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Posted 25 October 2017 - 04:31 PM

I think I'd be trying to see if certain X399 boards are known to use Foxconn sockets/retention plates, and perhaps avoiding them if possible, until this is ironed out...


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Posted 25 October 2017 - 05:20 PM

Okay what mother board do you think I should go with? I hard Aorus is good.


But I also heard that Aorus has bugs
 
 
I might as well wait for about 2 - 3 months to see what happens if there is more news about this please inform me!

Edited by hamluis, 12 November 2017 - 04:33 PM.


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Posted 25 October 2017 - 05:40 PM

You already have a thread open on this same issue. I have responded to that one.

 

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 05:42 PM

I really wouldn't worry. It's a rare problem. Nearly every motherboard uses foxconn socket covers now so I wouldn't worry.


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#13 PureCode

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 02:58 PM

oh okay.


Edited by hamluis, 12 November 2017 - 04:34 PM.





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