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New gaming/work pc deciding on a case


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#1 Alice175

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 11:39 AM

Hi, like the title says, I want to spec or maybe build a new pc and am trying to decide on a case, I was thinking about a small case like a micro or mini atx to take up less space but would there be disadvantages to a small case like inferior cooling for example, would it be better to just get a mid tower or full tower size case for a durable computer?

 

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 01:43 PM

It's bit harder to build PC into small case. Also fitting quiet cooling solution may be harder. Expandability is also limited.

For durability, it doesn't make big difference.

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 05:43 PM

By durability I just meant effective cooling/airflow, I thought it might last longer if it had good cooling.

 

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Posted 21 October 2017 - 12:01 PM

Good cooling makes better durability but you shouldn't have problems putting good enough cooling into mATX case unless you plan to overclock or overstuff your system.

 

Overstuff, that sounds good :bubbles:


Edited by Drillingmachine, 21 October 2017 - 12:02 PM.


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Posted 21 October 2017 - 08:41 PM

thanks drillingmachine, I was actually considering overstuffing the system with an overclocked cpu, if that was the case would a bigger case be better?



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Posted 22 October 2017 - 12:13 AM

It'll be more straightforward in a larger system.  Yes you can put together an overclocked, water cooled Mini ITX system with a high power GPU, but you've got to know what you're doing in terms of component selection, routing wires and pipes in an efficient way in a very tight space, and so on.  Large air coolers are not really an option in these systems.



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Posted 23 October 2017 - 02:03 AM

never considered water cooling, maybe a standard size case would be better

 

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 08:03 AM

With Mini ITX the motherboards are space restricted, so you pretty much have the choice of a low profile CPU cooler (mostly not up to serious overclocking) or liquid cooling. There are a fair number of Mini ITX cases that will accommodate radiators and larger GPU's now.

 

I wouldn't really consider Micro ATX small form factor but I guess they are a compromise between a full size ATX system and a much smaller ITX one.



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Posted 23 October 2017 - 09:38 AM

I would go for micro ATX myself due to how many great options you have for that form factor in cases.

 

There is this:

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353062&ignorebbr=1

 

This:

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133274&ignorebbr=1

 

This:

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139044&ignorebbr=1

 

This:

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352047&ignorebbr=1

 

This:

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144304&ignorebbr=1

 

Or for the more traditional desktop layout there are these:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811108530&ignorebbr=1

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352065&ignorebbr=1

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352032&ignorebbr=1

 

 

Personally I like the Thermaltake Core V21 as one can mod it, it has near endless amounts you can orientate it including resembling a more traditional desktop.

I almost went with this case.


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Posted 23 October 2017 - 09:53 AM

If I may chime in folks  :)

 

Alice;

 

Before deciding on a chassis, have you got a parts list organised and confirmed that the specs of your potential new hardware will play the games that you will be wanting to play - can you post a list of the games for us, more demanding games require a more powerful add on video card and PSU to power the card, this is most often a problem with SFF (small form factor) cases as the more demanding video cards are on the large size both in length and dual slot width.



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Posted 28 October 2017 - 07:05 PM

Thanks madmanrb fo rthe links

 

Hi phil thanks for the reply, I dont have a list really, I have been looking, I kind of know what i want to do, I would like a lot of usbs on the case/mobo. Im thinking ryzen for the cpu, i was going to go for a corsair h100i cooler because my friend recommended it but it just broke so probably just going to get an air cooler and save some money.

 

a fast ssd and maybe another bigger drive too, I want to play gta5 and pubg, those are the games my friends play, I also want to dark souls 3 , any new dark souls/bloodborne games, maybe the new shadow of mordor, also play red dead redemption 2 when it comes out and want to get back into gaming generally, want to run new games well, don't know if I need a 1080 1080ti or if a 1070 will do, I don't want to have to upgrade any time soon and i do need to run at least 2 monitors. I also want to maybe do some stock trading and just generally want a fast powerful machine  which is reliable and doesn't leave me wanting

 

I have also been thinking about getting one prebuilt with a warranty because I've had headaches building my own before, i have been looking at overclockers.co.uk and https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs but i haven't decide anything yet

 

thanks for the replies


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Posted 29 October 2017 - 01:03 PM

Hi Alice,

 

Got everything that we need to know to be able to suggest a parts list but your maximum budget will be needed so we know what we have to work with.

 

Don`t particularly like and avoid recommending prebuilt systems, you still end up paying more than you need to + you have shipping/cost problems to deal with should something go wrong, much better to speak to a reputable tech or tech store local to you and get a price for them assembling your parts list for you, this way help is on your doorstep if it is needed + each component will have its own individual warranty period, some PSUs are ten years, much better than having a three year warranty on a PSU in a prebuilt system that you will most likely be paying the same amount of cash for.

 

Take a look at Logical Increments here to get an idea of what your maximum budget will get you.



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Posted 29 October 2017 - 06:22 PM

Ok thanks Phil that's interesting, I was leaning towards the prebuilt because of the warranty funnily enough and the price on 3xs was pretty much the same as buying the components separately

 

as for budget, every time i have specced one on a site it has come to £1700 plus, that's a lot of money and i'd like to spend less but like i sad i dont want to have to upgrade and i want it to be capable for a good while. For the games i mentioned what graphics card do you think i need? i have been looking at 1080 cards

 

As for the case, I have go the impression that maybe I would be better off with a mid tower or full tower? I looked at cases yesterday and I have to say that while function is much more important than form to me, I do like the look of the fractal design cases, although there don't seem to be any on logicalincrements

 

i think 16gb of ram, is there much reason to get 32gb at the moment?

 

I know you avoid prebuilt systems, what do you think about these motherboard/cpu+cooler/ram bundles https://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/overclocked-bundles/3xs-professionally-overclocked-amd-ryzen-bundles, do you feel the same way? A friend recommended this to me months ago, They have intel ones too https://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/overclocked-bundles/all but I am thinking ryzen, they have a 3 year warranty.

Also They are overclocked and I like this because honestly, I would not overclock it myself

 

thanks a lot


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Posted 30 October 2017 - 08:42 AM

Ok thanks Phil that's interesting, I was leaning towards the prebuilt because of the warranty funnily enough and the price on 3xs was pretty much the same as buying the components separately
 
as for budget, every time i have specced one on a site it has come to £1700 plus, that's a lot of money and i'd like to spend less but like i sad i dont want to have to upgrade and i want it to be capable for a good while. For the games i mentioned what graphics card do you think i need? i have been looking at 1080 cards


Suitable GPU depends on monitor. So first decide what monitor, then decide GPU.
 

As for the case, I have go the impression that maybe I would be better off with a mid tower or full tower? I looked at cases yesterday and I have to say that while function is much more important than form to me, I do like the look of the fractal design cases, although there don't seem to be any on logicalincrements
 
i think 16gb of ram, is there much reason to get 32gb at the moment?
 
I know you avoid prebuilt systems, what do you think about these motherboard/cpu+cooler/ram bundles https://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/overclocked-bundles/3xs-professionally-overclocked-amd-ryzen-bundles, do you feel the same way? A friend recommended this to me months ago, They have intel ones too https://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/overclocked-bundles/all but I am thinking ryzen, they have a 3 year warranty.
Also They are overclocked and I like this because honestly, I would not overclock it myself
 
thanks a lot


Fractal cases are OK but so are many others. It's mostly personal preference.

RAM is super expensive now so 32GB is good way to waste money if you don't have real use for that extra 16GB.

Those overclocking bundles depends on what CPU you choose. Also many of those overclocks are not really worth paying more.

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Posted 30 October 2017 - 09:00 AM

I wasnt budgeting for a new monitor as well actually, I currently have a 24 inch 1080 Samsung and quite an old 40 inch tv as my monitors

 

if 16gb of ram is enough for my needs then i'll just get that

 

If i got an overclocking bundle I would probably get a ryzen 1700 or 1700x, they are the same price and overclocked to the same level but the 1700 has a lower tdp which i think means it uses less power and gets less hot, is that right? If it is then the 1700. I would get the be quiet cooler over the corsair liquid one and not sure which motherboard

 

Thanks drillingmachine






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