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#1 The-Toolman

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 10:51 PM

Hello BC Forum,

 

I've decided to throw together a Frankenstein Build desktop from spare parts I have accumulated over the years.

 

I chose to use an ASUS M2A-VM motherboard with an AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ processor with an ATI Radeon X300 [RV370] pcie graphics card and four 1.0 GB DDR2 unmatched sticks of memory.

 

I downloaded Linux Mint 18.2 Mate 64bit iso and using USB Image Writer from Linux Mint 18 Xfce created a bootable usb to install Linux Mint 18.2 Mate 64bit onto this thrown together Frankenstein Build desktop.

 

The Linux Mint 18.2 Mate 64bit install and updates went without any installation problems or issues.

I then setup my Linux Mint 18.2 Mate 64bit using a few tweaks from "Easy Linux Tips Project".

 

I have to say that after several hours of use I haven't experienced any problems with the panel or any problems connecting to Firefox 56.0 or streaming Youtube videos etc.

 

I have to admit when Linux Mint 18.2 was released and I tried it and found it to be problematic.

 

I'm glad I decided to give Linux Mint 18.2 another try as it appears to be a good running Linux Distro on this thrown together Frankenstein Build desktop.

 

No Complaints with Linux Mint 18.2 Mate 64bit. :thumbsup:

I had forgotten how cool Linux Mint Mate is.

 

 

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:23 PM

I must be doing something wrong then because I still have the same problems with Mate every time?  Argggargggarggg! 

 

I'll give er a go again using the USB Image Writer from Linux Mint once I get my Internet working correctly again, maybe that will help.  I wonder if the USB Image Writer from Linux Mint was any good on 17.1 as that is all I have installed right now?

 

It is a good Distro Tooman, love the Windows like layout, and the easily Customizable Menu.  Also like how you can do a Search in the File Manager with Full Words, instead of just one letter like some other Distro's and OS's.


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Posted 21 October 2017 - 06:08 AM

Hello pcpunk,

 

I would think that USB Image Writer would be the same in LM 17.x as it is in LM 18.x as all I did was selected the iso from downloads and then selected the Lexar usb to send the iso to and ticked write and off it went.

 

I see why you like Linux Mint Mate as I had forgotten how full feature it is seems to have most of the same features of Linux Mint Cinnamon without all of the eye candy.

 

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 10:10 AM

I tried USB Image Writer and had the same results, but as I relayed to Tooman via PM that this problem did not exist on another computer I Installed to a while back.  So maybe it is something to do with the Live Session, or Updates, or something else I don't know.  I'm going to have another go at it ASAP, when I get another computer up and running to install to.  Can't wait to get Mate up and running to compare side by side to my 17.2 KDE.


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Posted 22 October 2017 - 12:48 PM

Hello BC Forum,

 

Here's another Linux Mint 18.2 Mate 64bit install that runs like a champion with only 3.0 GB of Memory. :thumbup2:

I'm trying to remember why I stopped using Mate and went Xfce had to be some reason but I sure can't remember. :scratchhead:

 

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 03:30 PM

Kudos to another good install!

 

 

I'm trying to remember why I stopped using Mate and went Xfce had to be some reason but I sure can't remember. :scratchhead:

I wondered that also? haha jab jab

 

I suppose if you are trying to Squeeze out every bit of resources and space then it would be a little better, or, some just like the way it works. 

 

I learned a while back that Mate only used slightly more resources than Xfce, and at the time included Libre Office instead of AbiWord, and I liked Libre better.  Libre may have used more resources but was worth it IMO.  I think Xfce now includes Libre Office, if memory serves.

 

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 04:48 PM

It can't use that many more resources and yes Xfce does include LibreOffice.

 

I guess the real difference is Xfce is a window manager and Mate is a Gnome 2 GUI.

I could be wrong about that and don't really understand the difference between the two.

 

Seems to be some variations between the versions of the Mate GUI from distro to distro.

Yep the LM Mate seems to offer the same features in LM Cinnamon without the extra eye candy and bells.

 

I may have to download LM 18 Mate and see how it compares to LM 18.2 Mate.

 

Need to dig through my stash box for some DDR2 Memory and increase the amount in this old desktop.


Edited by The-Toolman, 22 October 2017 - 04:49 PM.

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 07:00 PM

I also like Mate better than Cinnamon because the Menu is Configurable.  You can make it as big as you want and change many other aspects of it.  This is good especially if Seniors are going to be using it.  I Set the Favorites as Default when Menu is opened and it put all the important things there that are not on the Desktop already.


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Posted 27 October 2017 - 03:59 PM

Well since Linux Mint Mate 18.2 installed so well without problems on two different desktop computers I figured it is only fair to see how Linux Mint 18.2 Xfce installs and works on a 3rd desktop computer.

 

Another successful OOTB without any problems install.

So without any doubt Linux Mint 18.2 installs and updates and works 100% no complaints here. :cool:

 

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 08:14 PM

Another great Install here also with the help of Paul88ks.  This is my Triple Boot that was seen in my other Thread.  One big issue for me is that File Manager still gets stuck in the Panel, don't like that at all, and still found no answer as to why it is happening to me on every Install of mine.  I'll post the inxi along with the Partitions.

 

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 08:32 PM

I wonder if anyone has tried this to fix some Video Tearing.  And, how would I know if my Video is new enough to do this?  Would love to get rid of some video tearing, but it is not bad.

Improve video performance for Intel graphics

Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics Controller
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1600x900@60.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 12.0.6

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 05:48 AM

Hey pcpunk,

 

 

Your problem with video tearing may very well be a graphics driver problem and also may be the cause of the panel sticking also.

 

Never tried the modesetting driver change in the ELTP you linked to but it might be worth a try.

 

Here's my output.

 

@Intel-DG33BU ~ $ inxi -G
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1024x768@75.03hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel G33 GLX Version: 1.4 Mesa 17.0.7
@Intel-DG33BU ~ $
 


Edited by The-Toolman, 28 October 2017 - 05:56 AM.

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 05:51 AM

IMO, Linux MInt 18.2 MATE (formerly known as Gnome or 'Main' edition) is the best ever! :)

 

Otherwise I'd not have been running the OS as my main once since early 2009 (8.5 years). Have tried Cinnamon several times, while there's been improvements, not that appealing to me, don't like the way at boot that the DE comes flying out at boot. KDE is a pain I can live w/out, that little bouncy thing that wasn't present in PCLinuxOS (also KDE) when I first started with Linux wasn't in that release. Would had stayed there, just that at the time, the very friendly community (a stark contrast in 2008 compared to others) couldn't get my (then) cellular based wireless dongle working. :(

 

So via a very kind Moderator, seeing me being drilled hard as a newbie, sent me a PM with her email address only, with a notice it would be deleted in 24 hours if I didn't respond. Once connected, she told me that she felt a soft spot for me, seeing that I was only looking for guidance, then suggested that I took a look at a then 'up & coming' Linux Mint Main edition. Also told me that the conversation would be kept to ourselves & off of their forum or she'd deny speaking with me & I'd be permanently banned. Needless to say, I didn't tell anyone, in fact, for well over two years afterwards, never appeared again on the forum, as really I didn't need to. Plus still to this day have less than 60 posts on the Linux Mint forum to date, half of which others were asking my opinion. The most notable of which was getting a virtualization section started, I added my two cents with a compelling reason why needed, a few months later, the Administrator announced that Linux Mint forum now had a new one to visit & learn from. :)

 

Had it not been for that kind tip, I may or may not had found Linux Mint, likely would at some point, although maybe too late. However, when I first laid eyes on Linux Mint 7 Gloria, it was love at first sight. :heart:

 

Later on, when Ubuntu messed up big time (otherwise wouldn't had retracted) & went full blown Unity, in little time Linux Mint became the #2 most ran Linux distro, trailing only Ubuntu, and #4 Worldwide, behind Windows (all versions), Mac (all versions). :thumbsup:

 

The rest is history. While Mint Cinnamon is considered the 'drop in' replacement for Windows 7 & now more popular, it was Linux Mint MATE that carried the distro for many years. :)

 

Here's my latest MATE 18.2 install, while running on a 3rd gen i7-3635QM quad core mobile CPU, is running on the single 4GB module of soldered on RAM only. Somehow or the other, the only slot that would hold an added 8GB went bad, yet MInt MATE 64 uses just 2GB with both Firefox and several Google Chrome pages open, runs fast as greased lightning. :thumbsup:

 

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If the MB weren't expensive & likely plagued by the same bugs as this one, would purchase another, it's now running fine, so no need to fix what isn't broken. :)
 
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Posted 28 October 2017 - 06:18 AM

If the MB weren't expensive & likely plagued by the same bugs as this one, would purchase another, it's now running fine, so no need to fix what isn't broken. :)

 
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Hey cat1092,

 

Exactly and the reason I like and use old computers and hardware they work and are free and if I don't have the hardware in my stash to upgrade them than it can be found on ebay for a few dollars. :thumbsup:


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Posted 28 October 2017 - 02:35 PM

Hey pcpunk,

 

Your problem with video tearing may very well be a graphics driver problem and also may be the cause of the panel sticking also.

 

Never tried the modesetting driver change in the ELTP you linked to but it might be worth a try.

I think, it is quite normal for linux to have just a little Tearing while Scrolling in a Browser but I could be wrong.  It seems to be this way on all my pc's with linux, mind you these are all old pc's, well kinda old.  Even a hint of it on my Windows 7 machines.

 

Yes, why don't you try that for me LOL Bahahahahaha.  I don't want to mess up my new Triple Boot, because I need it to test printer installs on Mate 18.2.  Seems simple enough, but the Tearing is not bad at all, and as said only in browsers while scrolling.

 

Just Please Please figure out why my File Manager gets stuck in the Panel when Minimized, and only After Opening the Menu. :hysterical: I feel like there is something wrong with me lol.


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