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#1 PDN

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Posted 15 October 2017 - 11:37 AM

I posted but when I checked all was gone so I edited .

 

This always happens - I am using Windows 10 and Chrome.

 

* I will perform an image after the fall creator update is done & cleaned up.

 

My question is, should I rely on my initial Win10 installation flash drive or should I create a new installation flash drive after the update, if that is possible?


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Posted 15 October 2017 - 12:40 PM

You have to create a new one, which will not be available until Wednesday.


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Posted 15 October 2017 - 02:02 PM

You have to create a new one, which will not be available until Wednesday.


>> Do you find the ISO file and burn it?

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Posted 15 October 2017 - 02:31 PM

Yes, on Wednesday it will available from this link;

 

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

 

Download it and save it to a USB stick or a DVD and just keep it handy in a drawer or something. These little installation things come in handy.


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Posted 15 October 2017 - 02:53 PM

Rocky,

 

          Just for absolute clarity, you don't just copy/save the ISO to optical media (DVD) or a USB drive, but must use a utility to burn it such that the media is recognized as bootable.

 

           I've seen people just do a drag and drop and while that gets the ISO copied, it doesn't make the media it's copied to bootable.

 

           There are many utilities to do this for optical media, ImgBurn, Anyburn, CD Burner XP (which is supported for all Windows versions that came after), and InfraRecorder - to name just a few.

 

            I'm sure there are many for making a bootable USB drive, too, but I always use Rufus.


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Posted 15 October 2017 - 03:41 PM

Brian, That is absolutely correct. I use the option to download the ISO as a file which I save on my PC, then I use either Rufus to make a bootable USB stick or I use a utility that I have (Roxio) to make a bootable DVD. Without making the media bootable, it is simply a file.

 

I did not mention any of that because I "assumed" that the OP already knew all that, but thank you for pointing it out for clarity.

 

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Posted 15 October 2017 - 04:57 PM

Can I use the media creation tool because I find Rufus to be sort of hard?


Edited by PDN, 15 October 2017 - 05:25 PM.


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Posted 15 October 2017 - 08:59 PM

Can I use the media creation tool because I find Rufus to be sort of hard?

 

You can certainly try going that route if it's bootable USB that you're trying to create.   In the early days I had issues with that feature of the MCT so stopped using it.  It was very frustrating to have spent the amount of time it took to download the ISO over DSL only to have the process bomb out when creating the bootable USB drive.

 

I have not tried again since then as I find Rufus to be about as simple as can be.


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 06:58 AM

I will use your link and try Rufus.

I will use the old Creator flash drive and let it format it.

 

At your link I saw the update tool and the assistant but no ISO.

 

Where do I go to get just the ISO itself to use with Rufus?

 

Do I wait until Tuesday when the update is released?

 

 

PS I just found an assistant - is that where I get the ISO to use Rufus with?


Edited by PDN, 16 October 2017 - 09:04 AM.


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 09:05 AM

I will use your link and try Rufus.

I will use the old Creator flash drive and let it format it.

 

At your link I saw the update tool and the assistant but no ISO.

 

Where do I go to get just the ISO itself to use with Rufus?

 

Do I wait until Tuesday when the update is released?

 

 

PS I just found an assistant - is that where I get the ISO to use Rufus with?

 

 

I would wait until Wednesday, then it will be a certain thing and MUCH, MUCH easier. That link that I provided is for the ISO.


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 09:11 AM

The Media Creation Tool is what downloads the actual Windows 10 ISO file to your machine.

 

Take a look at the documentation on the Windows 10 Download Page previously provided by Rocky Bennett.


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 10:00 AM

The Media Creation Tool is what downloads the actual Windows 10 ISO file to your machine.

 

Take a look at the documentation on the Windows 10 Download Page previously provided by Rocky Bennett.

 

 

Sorry, I was confused about the assistant and the tool because both appear there. I will choose tool not assistant.

I read that one does not need Rufus and that Windows will create the stick, is that correct?


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 10:11 AM

Yes that is correct. When you use the tool, you have the option to download the file to use later. That is when Rufus is used.

 

As far as the download goes, it will be available tomorrow, but it is anybodys guess what time. I am an insider so when I see it on their server I will post right away that it is available. Even though I make my own Windows ISO from scratch using individual files, I will download the official ISO for my client's PCs.


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 10:22 AM

I will use the tool and following the prompts, allowing Windows to create the stick.

 

I will first allow Windows to download and install the update then later will use the stick if necessary to do a clean install.


Edited by PDN, 16 October 2017 - 10:24 AM.


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 11:20 AM



I will use the tool and following the prompts, allowing Windows to create the stick.

 

I will first allow Windows to download and install the update then later will use the stick if necessary to do a clean install.

 

But the Media Creation Tool does not, if memory serves, *install* the update.  It allows you to use it to create the bootable USB media directly, if you so choose.  If you do that I believe you must still initiate the update yourself.  I have used the Media Creation Tool many, many times and never recall being asked whether I wanted to install the update when doing so.  [Of course, I may just be ignoring it because I use the MCT to download the ISO and create bootable media from the ISO myself.]  See: Updating Windows 10 using the Windows 10 ISO file 


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