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Atari-style USB joysticks won't work


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#1 Commodore64

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Posted 21 September 2017 - 04:21 PM

I bought a used refurbished HP monitor for my Linux system, and it has 2 USB ports on the side of it. I thought that if I bought 2 Atari-style USB joysticks, I could plug them into the USB ports. I tried that, and both of the joysticks didn't work. I tried changing the joystick settings on my VICE emulator, but they still didn't work. Does anybody know why not?

 

If I can't get the joysticks to work this time, I'm going to have to try plugging them in to 2 adjacent USB ports on the back of my computer. I think that will probably work.

 

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Posted 21 September 2017 - 04:39 PM

What brand are said joysticks?


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Posted 21 September 2017 - 05:47 PM

I don't think that plugging them into your monitor would work in any case since a monitor is looking for video type signals of some sort coming into it. A joystick is merely two potentiometers (variable resistors in English) at right angles to each other which produce a varying set of voltage values as you move them. The computer then processes these voltages into signals to move the mouse, gunsight, control surfaces or whatever in the video feed to the monitor.

 

You will have a much better chance of success plugging them into the back of the computer.

 

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Posted 21 September 2017 - 05:59 PM

Yeah but some monitors do have USB ports on them as I have one as long as it's plugged into the computer it will work

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 03:49 AM

I have to agree with Chris here. The only machines I know of where you can plug USB's into the monitor and stuff will work, are these new-fangled 'all-in-ones'.....where the guts of the machine are actually in the back of the monitor.

 

And I don't know the first thing about them; not from experience, anyway.

 

 

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 07:59 AM

From what I gather the USB ports on the side of the monitor are similar to a USB hub. In the bottom of the monitor is a USB type "B" connection from the computer's "A" port. 



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Posted 22 September 2017 - 09:14 AM

I have to agree with Chris here. The only machines I know of where you can plug USB's into the monitor and stuff will work, are these new-fangled 'all-in-ones'.....where the guts of the machine are actually in the back of the monitor.

 

And I don't know the first thing about them; not from experience, anyway.

 

 

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My LG monitor would beg to differ

 

http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-24GM77-B-gaming-monitor

 

http://www.lg.com/uk/images/monitors/24GM77-B/gallery/24GM77_medium_08.jpg

 

Got  two USB 3.0 ports on the side, sure its a TN panel but by golly it has wonderful viewing angles almost IPS quality


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Posted 22 September 2017 - 09:36 AM

What brand are said joysticks?

They are "retrolinc" joysticks.



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Posted 22 September 2017 - 09:42 AM

If I can't get the Atari-style "retrolinc" joysticks to work on my monitor, I could try plugging them into 2 USB ports on the back of my computer.

 

An alternate plan to that is to use 2 9-pin to USB adapters that plug 1 end into my Wico Boss joysticks and the other end into 2 USB ports. I already ordered them, so I am ahead of the curve.

 

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 09:50 AM

As for the USB ports on your monitor do they connect to your computer somehow?

Mine uses a USB3 cable on the bottom.

Do you have the model number of your monitor?


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Posted 22 September 2017 - 11:46 AM

As for the USB ports on your monitor do they connect to your computer somehow?

Mine uses a USB3 cable on the bottom.

Do you have the model number of your monitor?

Well, they are close to the VGA cable that connects to the computer, and I think the VGA cable transmits both ways: It would have to in order to receive data from the Internet and transmit keystrokes to Internet sites.

 

The model # of my monitor is: HP Compaq LA1905wg

 

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 12:39 PM

Nope not how it works, here is the bottom of your monitor:

 

https://www.pcbitz.com/content/images/products/15964/thumbnail/hp-compaq-la1905wg-19-lcd-monitor-grade-b-2.jpg

 

You can plainly see there is the need to have a USB cable plugged into the bottom, its not by magic.

It plugs in to your machine with a USB type b commetor from the monitor to your computer.


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Posted 22 September 2017 - 07:42 PM

Nope not how it works, here is the bottom of your monitor:

 

https://www.pcbitz.com/content/images/products/15964/thumbnail/hp-compaq-la1905wg-19-lcd-monitor-grade-b-2.jpg

 

You can plainly see there is the need to have a USB cable plugged into the bottom, its not by magic.

It plugs in to your machine with a USB type b commetor from the monitor to your computer.

 

I looked at the picture you sent me. It has 4 ports. For simplicity's sake, let's call them ports 1-4 from left to right. Which port should I plug in the USB type "B" connector (I know it's not port 3: That's the VGA port.) ? Should I plug the other end into a USB port on the back of my computer, or to the "A" port (whatever that means) on the back of my computer?

 

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 08:05 PM

Yes the a type of USB is the rectangle and the one that hooks into the monitor is the square one.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB


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Posted 23 September 2017 - 10:41 AM

Yes the a type of USB is the rectangle and the one that hooks into the monitor is the square one.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB

 

Thanks for the info. Is the "A" type of USB a standard USB port?

 

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